misterjwei@yahoo.com (27 posts)  11/13/2012 4:19 AM

This guy has been a huge disappointment thus far.  BBM Projections were pretty high on him with rose out and I guess he was supposed to step up and be the man?  I drafted him in all my leagues.  What should I do with him?  Do you think he will turn it around?

mbuser (4316 posts)  11/13/2012 9:19 AM

Seven games in and he's not looked good, at least not consistently, mostly bricking jumpers link. And with Noah playing 39 mpg, he's been making way for Taj Gibson more than expected. What should you do with him? If you think neither situation will change, then deal him for whatever you can. If you think he'll settle in a bit and Noah won't keep playing so much, then sit tight. Hinrich staying healthy would probably benefit Boozer, as well, putting the ball a bit more in his hands.

jolley1513 (14 posts)  11/13/2012 10:43 AM

2 years in a row I selected him because of BBM's projections.  Not very happy with BBM at the moment.

loganb7 (21 posts)  11/13/2012 1:13 PM

lol@Jolley not being happy with BBM. Shouldnt you make up you own mind about player projections while utilizing BBM as a tool/resource in that process? BBM isnt here to think for you and is just an opinion and resource. I agree with them 75%-80% of the time but this isnt an exact science.

COH

mbuser (4316 posts)  11/13/2012 1:27 PM

Nobody is less happy about projections that are juuuuuust a bit outside than us, believe me. In case it matters, you can rest assured that Ken and I draft based on the projections ourselves - we're not just throwing them up there for window dressing. Hopefully we led you the right way on a few draft decisions, as well.

Cap. (518 posts)  11/13/2012 1:58 PM

I've been shopping him laboriously, and having no luck so far, not just that, but all the responses I've gotten are "not interested at all".  It's safe to say that whatever preseason value he had is out the window, and even though he's still 92% owned, that # should drop dramatically in the coming days.  I will continue to shop him for whatever I can get, but at this point, I'm considering dropping him outright and letting him be someone else's problem.  Before I do that though, I will give him a few more games nailed to my bench to see if he can show any sign of life.  In other words, he shouldn't be anywhere near your starting lineup right now.

jolley1513 (14 posts)  11/14/2012 7:42 AM

loganb7, you make a valid point, and one I will keep in mind next year.  That said, when one pays for projections, they tend to give more weight to them than others.  I didn't draft Boozer high (Pick 67), but my expectations were, so this is probably where my unhappiness stems from.  Other guys I drafted based on the projections that have underperformed thus far:

Cousins, Ilyasova, Beasley, Stuckey, Lawson, Aldridge, and Pekovic.  Here is my team in all its glory (I dropped Stuckey yesterday)

8 Teams 16 Per Team [14 Active = pts 3 ast stl blk fg% ft% dr or fg ft min ato 3%]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	or/g	fg/g	ft/g	ato	to/g	3%	3a/g	ptsV	3V	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	orV	fgV	ftV	minV	atoV	3%V
	1	5	0.81	Curry, Stephen		GSW	PG/SG	64		35.0	18.6	2.3	6.9	1.6	0.3	0.484	14.3	0.897	2.7	3.3	0.7	6.9	2.4	2.16	3.2	0.453	5.2	0.83	1.83	1.49	1.32	-0.61	0.23	0.83	-0.56	-0.75	0.80	-0.42	0.85	0.95	4.46
	2	9	0.55	Aldridge, LaMarcus		POR	PF/C	73		37.0	23.2	0.0	2.7	0.9	0.9	0.512	18.7	0.818	4.9	5.7	2.4	9.6	4.0	1.27	2.1	0.220	0.2	1.96	-1.08	-0.33	-0.39	0.21	1.29	0.50	0.74	0.77	2.58	0.82	1.40	-0.51	-0.29
	2	13	0.45	Cousins, DeMarcus		SAC	PF/C	73		33.0	21.1	0.0	2.1	1.7	1.2	0.486	17.0	0.702	6.5	7.5	4.2	8.3	4.5	0.71	2.9	0.150	0.2	1.44	-1.10	-0.59	1.52	0.64	0.33	-1.25	1.74	2.35	1.69	1.26	0.30	-1.70	-0.39
	2	15	0.40	Lawson, Ty		DEN	PG/SG	73		35.0	17.2	1.3	6.9	1.4	0.1	0.501	12.8	0.818	3.7	2.9	0.9	6.4	3.0	2.68	2.6	0.391	3.3	0.48	0.52	1.49	0.78	-0.94	0.63	0.38	-0.81	-0.59	0.47	0.07	0.85	1.57	0.72
	3	18	0.33	Lowry, Kyle		TOR	PG	70		34.0	15.3	1.9	7.3	1.6	0.3	0.420	11.7	0.858	4.2	3.5	0.9	4.9	3.6	2.59	2.8	0.378	4.9	0.01	1.23	1.68	1.25	-0.63	-1.23	0.87	-0.44	-0.61	-0.53	0.53	0.58	1.57	0.39
	3	24	0.28	Dragic, Goran		PHO	PG	72		35.0	16.2	1.5	7.6	1.6	0.2	0.451	12.4	0.803	4.4	2.4	1.1	5.6	3.5	2.44	3.1	0.358	4.2	0.23	0.79	1.81	1.37	-0.72	-0.56	0.29	-1.05	-0.38	-0.08	0.43	0.85	1.45	-0.57
	6	47	0.10	Matthews, Wesley		POR	SG/SF	73		35.0	15.3	2.2	1.8	1.6	0.2	0.424	12.3	0.856	3.2	2.7	0.9	5.2	2.7	1.55	1.2	0.402	5.5	0.01	1.68	-0.71	1.32	-0.78	-1.18	0.64	-0.93	-0.61	-0.36	-0.19	0.85	-0.09	1.80
	6	48	0.09	Pekovic, Nikola		MIN	C	71		32.0	16.8	0.0	0.9	0.7	0.8	0.565	11.5	0.751	5.1	4.5	3.9	6.5	3.8	0.51	1.7	0.000	0.0	0.37	-1.13	-1.11	-0.83	0.14	1.94	-0.34	0.11	2.03	0.52	0.68	0.03	-1.21	0.01
	7	53	0.04	Boozer, Carlos		CHI	PF	71		31.0	16.9	0.0	2.8	1.0	0.4	0.527	13.7	0.702	3.6	7.3	1.9	7.2	2.5	1.21	2.3	0.000	0.0	0.41	-1.13	-0.29	-0.20	-0.56	1.33	-0.69	1.61	0.32	1.00	-0.37	-0.25	-0.64	0.01
	8	63	-0.03	West, David		IND	PF	68		32.0	16.1	0.0	2.1	0.9	0.8	0.495	14.0	0.817	2.8	5.5	1.8	6.9	2.3	1.36	1.6	0.250	0.1	0.20	-1.09	-0.56	-0.47	0.07	0.51	0.28	0.62	0.22	0.79	-0.54	0.03	-0.29	-0.17
	9	66	-0.04	Nelson, Jameer		ORL	PG	70		32.0	14.8	1.9	6.3	0.9	0.1	0.435	13.0	0.815	1.9	2.8	0.6	5.6	1.6	2.38	2.7	0.388	4.9	-0.13	1.30	1.27	-0.43	-0.96	-0.98	0.18	-0.84	-0.88	-0.05	-1.10	0.03	1.15	0.89
	11	88	-0.20	Ilyasova, Ersan		MIL	SF/PF	73		30.0	13.3	1.1	1.4	0.8	0.7	0.442	10.8	0.767	3.5	6.4	2.5	4.8	2.7	1.05	1.3	0.358	3.0	-0.49	0.25	-0.90	-0.58	0.01	-0.67	-0.10	1.11	0.80	-0.62	-0.24	-0.53	-0.49	-0.41
	12	90	-0.23	Parsons, Chandler		HOU	SF	74		34.0	12.5	1.3	2.6	1.3	0.5	0.464	10.9	0.623	1.7	3.8	1.6	5.0	1.1	1.66	1.6	0.362	3.6	-0.71	0.51	-0.36	0.57	-0.35	-0.22	-0.69	-0.27	0.07	-0.46	-1.51	0.58	0.00	-0.34
	12	91	-0.24	Green, Danny		SAS	SG	73		26.2	11.3	2.0	1.4	1.0	0.8	0.450	8.9	0.795	1.7	3.0	0.9	4.0	1.3	1.32	1.0	0.438	4.5	-0.99	1.35	-0.90	-0.12	0.04	-0.42	0.07	-0.75	-0.56	-1.14	-1.29	-1.57	-0.22	3.15
	13	103	-0.32	Beasley, Michael		PHO	SF/PF	70		31.0	15.9	1.1	1.8	0.7	0.6	0.443	14.3	0.754	2.9	4.5	1.4	6.3	2.2	0.75	2.4	0.360	3.0	0.15	0.24	-0.71	-0.78	-0.14	-0.87	-0.18	0.10	-0.13	0.41	-0.65	-0.25	-1.35	-0.33
	14	108	-0.37	Vucevic, Nikola		ORL	PF/C	70		29.0	10.3	0.1	1.1	0.7	1.3	0.478	9.5	0.733	1.4	5.4	3.5	4.6	1.0	0.88	1.2	0.300	0.4	-1.25	-0.99	-1.02	-0.94	0.79	0.05	-0.17	0.59	1.68	-0.78	-1.53	-0.80	-0.60	-0.28
	15	120	-0.43	Jordan, DeAndre		LAC	C	74		28.0	8.4	0.0	0.3	0.5	2.1	0.646	5.5	0.545	2.4	5.4	3.2	3.5	1.3	0.25	1.2	0.000	0.0	-1.72	-1.13	-1.36	-1.35	2.04	1.77	-1.44	0.61	1.45	-1.46	-1.32	-1.08	-1.05	0.01
	30	235	-1.21	Drummond, Andre		DET	PF/C	68		19.0	5.2	0.0	0.2	0.4	1.4	0.500	4.8	0.300	1.4	2.6	1.6	2.4	0.4	0.22	1.1	0.000	0.0	-2.52	-1.13	-1.39	-1.59	0.98	0.23	-1.75	-0.97	0.01	-2.24	-2.03	-3.56	-0.94	0.01
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	or/g	fg/g	ft/g	ato	to/g	3%	3a/g	ptsV	3V	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	orV	fgV	ftV	minV	atoV	3%V
			-0.05	Avg Stats/Total Values				71		31.6	14.9	0.9	3.1	1.1	0.7	0.481	12.0	0.760	3.2	4.4	1.9	5.8	2.4	1.55	2.0	0.389	2.4	-1.72	0.91	-2.49	0.44	-0.75	1.91	-2.43	0.60	5.19	0.53	-7.39	-1.68	-2.35	8.53
			1.47	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				71		32.8	16.5	1.1	3.0	1.1	0.6	0.487	12.9	0.809	3.4	4.2	1.8	6.3	2.8	1.63	1.8	0.410	2.7	2.37	2.32	-1.52	1.02	-1.85	2.21	2.33	-0.47	1.32	3.03	-1.12	1.92	-0.27	9.21

tonika_zr (986 posts)  11/14/2012 10:19 PM

@Cap, sell,sell,sell,sell high

Cap. (518 posts)  11/14/2012 11:15 PM

After everything I said, I can't believe I had the cahones to play him tonight, I knew if I didn't he would blow up, and I was right.  You're telling me toni, he won't be on my roster after tomorrow, that's for sure.  Any takers? 

Cap. (518 posts)  11/14/2012 11:29 PM

Done already, Boozer and Brandon Knight for Pierce (and Dudley).  I can finally sleep at night.