Kiwi (56 posts)  11/15/2012 11:29 PM

My team projects to do pretty well in most categories - with two big weaknesses: blocks and FG%.

In looking at potential trade options - Serge Ibaka and Anthony Davis would seem to be good fits to help.  I'm thinking of trading Pau for one of these two guys.  Serge would seem to be a good fit, although would result in a hit in rebounds, assists and probably points.  With Davis, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to bet on his unproven potential, as opposed to Pau's consistant production.

Do you guys think either of these trades would be beneficial here, or would it be better to stick with Pau?

10 Teams 13 Per Team [8 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft%]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V
	1	3	0.92	Paul, Chris		LAC	PG	73		36.0	19.1	1.1	3.5	9.8	2.5	0.1	0.485	13.5	0.865	5.7	0.99	0.32	-0.92	2.76	3.61	-1.03	0.31	1.33
	2	12	0.41	Lowry, Kyle		TOR	PG	62		34.0	15.6	1.9	4.8	7.3	1.7	0.3	0.423	11.7	0.858	4.5	0.11	1.26	-0.43	1.69	1.47	-0.68	-1.05	0.95
	2	15	0.35	Cousins, DeMarcus		SAC	PF/C	73		33.0	20.8	0.0	11.5	1.7	1.8	1.1	0.479	17.5	0.702	5.8	1.42	-1.10	1.99	-0.71	1.75	0.43	0.22	-1.22
	2	17	0.32	George, Paul		IND	SG/SF	72		35.5	14.6	1.6	7.2	3.0	1.9	0.7	0.443	12.0	0.807	3.0	-0.15	0.89	0.44	-0.14	2.01	-0.11	-0.63	0.22
	3	21	0.27	Dragic, Goran		PHO	PG	71		35.0	16.2	1.5	3.2	7.6	1.6	0.2	0.454	12.3	0.789	4.5	0.25	0.78	-1.01	1.82	1.35	-0.77	-0.39	0.12
	3	22	0.27	Gay, Rudy		MEM	SF	74		37.0	19.8	1.0	6.2	2.3	1.5	0.9	0.459	16.4	0.807	4.6	1.17	0.15	0.10	-0.45	1.00	0.18	-0.38	0.35
	3	27	0.23	Batum, Nicolas		POR	SG/SF	70		35.0	16.2	2.1	5.3	1.9	1.3	1.0	0.455	12.6	0.827	3.2	0.26	1.59	-0.23	-0.62	0.48	0.39	-0.40	0.41
	3	28	0.23	Horford, Al		ATL	PF/C	72		35.0	15.7	0.0	9.2	3.2	0.8	1.1	0.556	12.0	0.787	2.9	0.12	-1.10	1.17	-0.09	-0.71	0.52	1.85	0.06
	4	35	0.13	Gasol, Pau		LAL	PF/C	73		37.0	15.9	0.2	9.9	3.4	0.5	1.3	0.503	12.8	0.793	3.6	0.19	-0.88	1.41	0.01	-1.30	0.80	0.72	0.13
	5	50	0.04	Thompson, Klay		GSW	SG	73		35.0	16.1	2.4	3.6	2.9	1.1	0.5	0.438	13.6	0.870	2.0	0.22	1.87	-0.87	-0.21	0.07	-0.42	-0.85	0.50
	10	98	-0.24	Sanders, Larry		MIL	PF	68		24.1	8.4	0.0	7.0	1.1	0.7	2.5	0.548	6.9	0.536	1.7	-1.71	-1.10	0.38	-1.00	-0.81	2.53	0.96	-1.14
	11	101	-0.26	Ilyasova, Ersan		MIL	SF/PF	72		30.0	12.6	1.0	8.0	1.4	0.8	0.7	0.435	10.8	0.767	2.8	-0.65	0.22	0.73	-0.86	-0.61	-0.05	-0.73	-0.10
	13	129	-0.41	Favors, Derrick		UTA	PF/C	72		24.0	10.4	0.0	7.7	0.8	0.7	1.7	0.505	7.7	0.655	4.0	-1.20	-1.10	0.61	-1.10	-0.90	1.33	0.47	-1.37
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V
			2.26	Avg Stats/Total Values				71		33.1	15.5	1.0	6.7	3.6	1.3	0.9	0.473	12.3	0.781	3.7	1.02	1.81	3.38	1.08	7.40	3.13	-0.03	0.32
			3.17	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				71		35.3	17.0	1.2	6.4	4.3	1.5	0.7	0.470	13.5	0.805	4.0	4.58	3.78	1.65	4.05	9.72	-0.69	-0.69	2.91

(Acquired Steph Curry in a trade for Klay Thompson, Larry Sanders & Derrick Favors, which goes through tomorrow, so not reflected here)

Grounded Polo (48 posts)  11/16/2012 7:47 AM

Is this keeper? How did you get nine top 40 players in a redraft?

Kiwi (56 posts)  11/16/2012 1:52 PM

Drafted based on BBMs rankings (thanks guys!), and have made four trades - all 2 or 3 for 1s - I've been able to address trade partners needs and sell high on a lot.  Pretty happy with the results so far (though only sitting in 4th at this point).  As for my question though?

Cap. (533 posts)  11/16/2012 2:28 PM

I would trade Pau for either of these guys.  With Ibaka you are getting a garaunteed 10 points in blocks, and everything else he does is bonus.  With Davis, I think we're seeing the low end of what he can do right now and he's averaging 15/7/1.5/3!  Pau's #s are down from last year so far, and it's becoming more clear that Howard's presence will hurt him more than help him.  I don't see Nash and D'Antoni eventual return helping him much either.

ferris (307 posts)  11/16/2012 5:50 PM

both would be excellent deals -- if you are in an active trading league, i'd prefer ibaka -- if your league makes few trades, i might take davis as he think he might be the better long term fit

everyone around here has very good teams as most used bbm rankings to draft and are now using bbm rankings to judge their teams

mbuser (4340 posts)  11/16/2012 6:16 PM

Yeah I like both deals, as well, and would lean towards Ibaka. I'm not so much down on Pau as I am high on the other two. You may then want to move Sanders or Favors for some help in other cats.

Kiwi (56 posts)  11/16/2012 6:27 PM

Appreciate the input guys.  Ibaka's a no-go for Pau, apparently.  What do you think about my trading Paul George (and Andre Miller) for Ibaka?  It would obviously result in a hit in threes and steals, but a nice jump in FG and blocks.  My latest trade went through, so team now looks like this:

10 Teams 13 Per Team [8 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft%]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V
	1	3	0.92	Paul, Chris		LAC	PG	73		36.0	19.1	1.1	3.5	9.8	2.5	0.1	0.485	13.5	0.865	5.7	0.99	0.31	-0.92	2.74	3.60	-1.02	0.30	1.34
	1	5	0.67	Curry, Stephen		GSW	PG/SG	63		35.0	18.6	2.3	4.0	6.9	1.6	0.3	0.484	14.3	0.897	2.7	0.87	1.85	-0.70	1.49	1.30	-0.65	0.30	0.88
	2	11	0.41	Lowry, Kyle		TOR	PG	62		34.0	15.6	1.9	4.8	7.3	1.7	0.3	0.423	11.7	0.858	4.5	0.12	1.25	-0.42	1.67	1.47	-0.68	-1.07	0.96
	2	15	0.35	Cousins, DeMarcus		SAC	PF/C	73		33.0	20.8	0.0	11.5	1.7	1.8	1.1	0.479	17.5	0.702	5.8	1.42	-1.10	1.99	-0.71	1.75	0.43	0.21	-1.22
	2	17	0.31	George, Paul		IND	SG/SF	72		35.5	14.6	1.6	7.2	3.0	1.9	0.7	0.443	12.0	0.807	3.0	-0.14	0.89	0.43	-0.15	2.01	-0.11	-0.65	0.23
	3	21	0.27	Dragic, Goran		PHO	PG	71		35.0	16.2	1.5	3.2	7.6	1.6	0.2	0.454	12.3	0.789	4.5	0.26	0.78	-1.01	1.80	1.35	-0.77	-0.40	0.12
	3	22	0.26	Gay, Rudy		MEM	SF	74		37.0	19.8	1.0	6.2	2.3	1.5	0.9	0.459	16.4	0.807	4.6	1.16	0.15	0.10	-0.45	1.00	0.18	-0.39	0.35
	3	27	0.23	Batum, Nicolas		POR	SG/SF	70		35.0	16.2	2.1	5.3	1.9	1.3	1.0	0.455	12.6	0.827	3.2	0.27	1.58	-0.23	-0.62	0.48	0.39	-0.41	0.41
	3	28	0.23	Horford, Al		ATL	PF/C	72		35.0	15.7	0.0	9.2	3.2	0.8	1.1	0.556	12.0	0.787	2.9	0.12	-1.10	1.16	-0.10	-0.70	0.52	1.85	0.06
	4	35	0.13	Gasol, Pau		LAL	PF/C	73		37.0	15.9	0.2	9.9	3.4	0.5	1.3	0.503	12.8	0.793	3.6	0.19	-0.88	1.41	0.00	-1.29	0.80	0.71	0.14
	11	102	-0.26	Ilyasova, Ersan		MIL	SF/PF	72		30.0	12.6	1.0	8.0	1.4	0.8	0.7	0.435	10.8	0.767	2.8	-0.63	0.22	0.73	-0.87	-0.61	-0.04	-0.75	-0.10
	11	107	-0.28	Wright, Dorell		PHI	SF	73		26.4	10.7	1.8	4.7	1.3	1.1	0.6	0.420	8.7	0.814	1.9	-1.11	1.16	-0.47	-0.89	-0.01	-0.31	-0.84	0.18
	15	150	-0.52	Miller, Andre		DEN	PG	72		24.0	8.6	0.1	2.9	5.8	0.8	0.1	0.452	7.2	0.827	2.4	-1.63	-0.94	-1.12	1.06	-0.62	-0.96	-0.27	0.31
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V
			2.72	Avg Stats/Total Values				71		33.3	15.7	1.1	6.2	4.3	1.4	0.6	0.468	12.5	0.806	3.7	1.90	4.18	0.94	4.97	9.74	-2.23	-1.49	3.74
			3.78	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				70		35.3	17.3	1.2	6.5	4.7	1.5	0.7	0.475	13.5	0.807	4.0	5.27	3.74	1.80	5.67	10.97	-0.91	0.39	3.32

Grounded Polo (48 posts)  11/16/2012 6:31 PM

I just asked the question about your team without answering yours because I don't think you're that weak in blocks, it's just that your lineup is absurdly stacked and if you're lagging behind there, it's because you haven't been able to get Sanders and Favors more starts.

I wouldn't deal Pau for Davis, that's way underselling on Gasol, Davis is still a rookie who will have ups and downs. I'd be fine with dealing Pau for Ibaka, he's finally getting the 35 minutes a night he deserves and has really been capitalizing. I think Gasol's bbm projection with D'Antoni on board is way too low but I'm still thinking him and Ibaka will end up close in value just because Ibaka is getting the minutes now.

Have you tried getting Durant or Lebron? If I could get that many 3/2 for 1 trades to work, I'd have to get greedy and go for a top prize.