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avatarSman (3 posts)  9/26/2012 8:10 AM

Hello fellow fantasy fans,

I am interested in reading your thoughts and predictions about Anthony Davis's fantasy value this season.

In buser's Mock Draft ADP draft sheet he is going around pick 60. In the mock drafts I have been doing through Yahoo it has been slightly higher around pick 50.

I generally do not draft rookies but Davis and Lillard seem very promising. With picks 48 and 53 in an upcoming 9-cat Head to Head League I would be very tempted if Davis is still available.

Are stat projections around 12 points, 10 rebounds and 2 blocks reasonable? If so, is someone like Roy Hibbert a better and possibly 'safer' pick or would you chase Davis's potential and upside?

Cheers


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avatartonika_zr (991 posts)  9/26/2012 8:20 AM

Davis all the way if is it keeper/dynasty league, if is it only for this season=Hibbie w/o any doubt.


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avatarJT Marlin (54 posts)  9/26/2012 10:26 AM

Those projections for ADavis are reasonable, although I think his BLK will be higher (2.5-3 more likely).  Add in a good FG% (.500+), decent FT% for a big (.700+), at least 1 STL, and very low TO (don't see him going over 1.5) and you have a potential rookie fantasy stud.  I think there's a very good chance that he returns 2nd rd value and, considering he's someone whose ADP is after 50, he is a real bargain.  I would take him over Hibbert without question.


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/26/2012 11:09 AM

2.5 + blks is VERY generous for a rookie on a crap team. Same with the low turnovers.

 

I agree a slight edge to hibbert this year, but next year and beyond it will be davis.


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/26/2012 11:32 AM

I'll draft Davis before Hibbert in any standard league, keeper or re-draft, but there's not tremendous separation there. We've pegged him at 2.1 blocks, but being on a crap team might actually help his blocks, power. If they are consistently losing comfortably, then there is more garbage time, which most certainly equals more blocks.


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/26/2012 11:36 AM

I look at the foul trouble generated from being on a crap team. If opponents can drive into the lane at will, Davis wont have the experience to avoid the foul trouble while helping.

 

We were talking about JV from the raps in another post, and upside/floor of JV, well for Davis, I would say that 2.1 is very much upside, with a floor around 1. That being said, I also fully admit my knowledge on Davis is not too high, as I never have been a big college guy so I don't know much about him, I just know that I don't trust rookie bigs due to, as I said, the general inability to stay out of foul trouble. Could be wrong though. (but 2.5-3.0? Come on...that still seems like crazy talk)


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/26/2012 11:50 AM

If Eric Gordon stays healthy, the Hornets project to be roughly average on both offense and defense. If Gordon gets hurt, they project to be bad offensively and average on defense.

Davis is a special talent defensively. His defensive awareness is on another level. Let's just say that his going berserk with blocks would elicit "This isn't really a surprise" and not "Where is this coming from?"


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avatarJT Marlin (54 posts)  9/26/2012 11:52 AM

First off, NO is going to surprise a lot of people this year.  This team has some potential star players (Gordon, ADavis, & RAnderson) and a bunch of solid role players (Vasquez, Lopez, Aminu, JSmith, Rivers).  Plus Monty Williams is a coach on the rise that gets his guys playing hard every night.  I'm not saying they're a playoff team but they will not be a pushover at all.  Regardless, I don't see how the team's W/L record is going to affect Davis' block potential.  If anything, he may need to rotate and help weakside even more on Def, which should lead to more blocks.

How is 2.5 BLK generous for a guy that just blocked 4.7 per game in college?  Just for comparison's sake, here are 3 big shot blockers stats from their final college season to their rookie NBA season:

Mutombo - 4.7 to 3.0

Mourning - 5.0 to 3.5

Camby - 3.9 - 2.1

Davis' defensive talent & potential is on par (if not better) with all of these guys in my opinion.  Projecting him substantially over 2 BLK per game does not seem like a stretch to me.  Maybe the TO projection is wishful thinking but he only averaged 1.0 in his 1 college season.  I would not project him much over 2.  I just think he has the chance to be really special right away and I don't expect much more from Hibbert at this point.


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/26/2012 12:29 PM

"Regardless, I don't see how the team's W/L record is going to affect Davis' block potential.  If anything, he may need to rotate and help weakside even more on Def, which should lead to more blocks." - That was actually my point on why he won't be hitting 2.5 blks. He is a rookie big playing in a guards game. His requirement for tons of weakside help combine with inexperience is going to lead to fouls. He might have a high basketball IQ, but he is still a rookie. He still needs to get his feet wet.

Also, Mutombo, Mourning, Camby...ALL played rookie years when the NBA rules were different, and a NBA player could use their hands more to direct the offensive player in certain directions. A massive rule change that is largly ignored when you compare pre 2004 players and post 2004. If you had one of your guards assisting in leading the offensive player to you, its going to make getting clean blks much much easier.

But since 2004? Different story.

Dwight Howard...2004 rookie season... 1.7 blks. From what I can see, one of the highest averages for blks from a rookie since the 04 rule change. So at the high side of 2.5-3.0 would almost double dwight howards rookie season? Like I said, 2.5-3.0 is VERY generous based on how the game is played today.


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/26/2012 12:35 PM

Howard came straight out of HS and still managed 1.7, while Davis got a year of experience at the highest level of the college game. Other recent rookie numbers: Biyombo 1.8 (23 min), Udoh 1.5 (18 min), Larry Sanders 1.2 (15 min), Ibaka 1.3 (18 min), Ant.Rand 1.2 (18 min)


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/26/2012 12:49 PM

Howard came straight out of high school, but he still got a solid 32 mpg his rookie year.

Look...last year 6 players got above 2 blks a game, and only one got above 2.2. If you think davis will join ether of these clubs in his rookie year, all the power to you. I would go with playing it safe with him, and think around 1.7, which is still a pretty darn fine number.


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avatarJT Marlin (54 posts)  9/26/2012 1:22 PM

@power101 - you make some good points and it may be wise for us to temper our expectations with regards to his blocks.  It seems that total blocks (league wide) have been trending down over the last 10 seasons but I could not find a website that provides NBA total blocks per season to confirm this (a bunch of sites provide team totals per season but I don't have time to add up all these #'s for each season). 

However, look again at some of the stats Buser provided in his last post.  A completely raw Biyombo, on one of the worst teams in NBA history, just blocked 1.8 per game in 23 MPG.  First - there goes your lower block totals for players on crappy teams argument.  Second - you're telling me that Davis won't block substantially more shots than Biyombo?  Davis very well may average 10 more MPG.  

I agree that 3 BGP may be wishful thinking but I really think that Davis is that rare special talent that will produce way more in blocks than your average rookie PF/C.  His other #'s will be really solid too and he won't hurt you anywhere (not counting AST & 3PM).  I think he'll produce #'s closer to 2nd rd value than 5th rd value, which is where he's currently being drafted. 


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/26/2012 1:39 PM

The reality though is, in my opinion, blks/stls/rebs will be there for him. Wether its 1.7 blks or 2.5 blks, anywhere in that range is fine. My concern is more on the offensive end? Can he avg 12+ ppg, while shooting 50%+ and 70+ at the line? This is where my lack of knowledge on the college game hits me, because I really dont know what side of these numbers is fair to expect from him in his first year.


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avatarHailfire4 (510 posts)  9/26/2012 1:43 PM

I think 48 and 53 is too early for AD if he makes it that far. Hibbert is too high there also. I would go for a David Lee, Paul george, bosh, Jrue or Lin, Eric Gordon, Crash in those slots. Taking AD too high just to own him isn't wise no matter how big of a fan u are. let someone else overdraft AD and u get the better players that fall.


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avatar# 6361 (32 posts)  9/26/2012 1:52 PM

Personally I think he's going to lead the league in blocks more times in his career than any other player in the history of the league. Currently a tie between Marcus Camby, Kareem & Mark Eaton at 4 times each. You can laugh if you want but I think he's the best shot blocker to come into the league in the last 20 years.

He was the first freshman in college basketball history to average over 10 Reb, 4 Blk & 60% shooting and his team won the championship. I think in his prime he will be one of the top 3 players in the league. 

So we can talk about what past rookie shot blockers have done as a starting point for his blocks projection but what we should also consider is that he's on another level than any of those players as a shot blocker. I actually think he's capable of averaging even more than 3 blocks and competing with Ibaka for league leader even as a rookie. He's going to be an epic shotblocker. It should take about 2 weeks into the season before that starts to become clear.

 


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avatartonika_zr (991 posts)  9/26/2012 2:30 PM

WoW, I know he is future 1st rounder but reading this I will pull out out from any trades discussion regarding him in this year Dynasty league with getting him in 7th round (1st pick I have and 6 keepers are min.mandatory).


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avatarbruin99 (201 posts)  9/26/2012 3:12 PM

If you want to look at shotblockers from College to Pro's, you can't leave out Emeka Okafur, who averged 4.5 in college, and 1.7 his rookie year at 32 minutes a game.

Or how about Udoh, who averaged 3.7 in college, and averaged 1.6 his first 2 years in the league in 20 minutes, with 2.7 fouls. 

Going from blocking in college to blocking in the pro's is a transition.  And Davis will be a special player and one who will eventually be at the top when it comes to blocks (possibly even this year).  However, projecting Davis as the #2 shotblocker in all the league behind Ibaka is pretty aggressive.

Even when you look at Ibaka, he went from 1.3 blocks in 18 minutes and 2.7 fouls, to 2.4 blocks in 27 minutes and 3.3 fouls, to last year where it was 3.7 blocks in 27 minutes and 2.7 fouls.

 


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/26/2012 4:21 PM

Posted this in another thread: "Davis isn’t immune to foul trouble, obviously, but among shot-blockers he’s as foul-proof as one gets."
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/anthony_davis_and_his_not_foul-prone_ways

As a freshman, Davis (2.4 blk/pf) bested Okafor's senior-year numbers (1.6 blk/pf) comfortably. Udoh averaged 1.5 blk/pf his final college season, worse than Okafor and easily bested by Davis.


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avatarak murthy (196 posts)  9/26/2012 4:37 PM

Great discussion guys, lotta interesting nuggets of Davis knowledge in here. 

 

Sorry to be the only one with out a stat, but is anyone else concerned that Davis is just not physically ready to defend at the NBA level yet? I believe that his numbers project very well, and that he has tremendous natural instinct and ability when it comes to defense, but does that matter if he's too frail to be effective in the post? Granted, his body will fill out and it's certainly not a long term issue, but I'm very curious to see how his 220 pound frame holds up over the next 82 games. 


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avatarJT Marlin (54 posts)  9/26/2012 4:47 PM

@#6361 - I agree that he has that kind of immediate upside and that is why I'm so bullish on him for this year.  It's worth the risk in rd 4 or 5.

@bruin99 - good point about Okafor but I don't think his talent was on the same level as Davis.  Great college big man and solid pro but not a superstar and did not end up being worth the #2 overall pick.


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/26/2012 4:59 PM

@ak murthy - The Hornets will do their best to protect him in the post. Anderson will draw the more stout defensive assignment to start games, with Lopez off the bench to help, as well. I'd even think Jason Smith will get the tougher post assignment when they share the floor.


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avatar# 6361 (32 posts)  9/26/2012 5:05 PM

I'm not worried about his skinny frame because he's just so long. In college bulky big guys, Thomas Robinson for instance tried to say ok I'm just gonna bully into this guy, but Davis would still manage to block their shots. By the 2nd half those bulky big guys realized that wasn't gonna work and started searching for other ways.

He's going to be a Garnett level defender and probably the only player we've ever seen capable of leading the league in blocks yet also agile enough to defend pick and rolls away from the hoop.

Offensively he's gonna be a work in progress. We didn't see much outside of dunks and finishing lobs in his freshman year. Having said that, he gets a lot of dunks and lobs. I think he can probably average around 12 points without ever hitting a jumpshot. He may struggle to score in halfcourt with the defense set but he's fantastic in transition and finishing lobs on pick and rolls.

 

 


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avatarSman (3 posts)  9/26/2012 7:12 PM

Thanks everyone for their thoughts and opinions. Very Interesting.

I would love to hear those who have drafted for real already and your up coming drafts where AD gets picked and before which big name players...


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avatarak murthy (196 posts)  9/26/2012 8:04 PM

I would love to hear those who have drafted for real already and your up coming drafts where AD gets picked and before which big name players...

My league hasnt drafted yet but I'm certain he's going right in the 48-53 range, exactly where you and I are picking. As the year gets closer I bet you'll see his ADP rise as the hype builds.


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/27/2012 8:12 AM

Hey...I like to be right, but I dont NEED to be right.

ESPN has Anthony Davis projected for 2.5 blks this year, so maybe I am off base with my thoughts on his blks potential. I am certainly giving davis more thought today then I did a few days ago. he almost would seem to be basically serge ibaka that you can get two rounds later.

Him being a rookie, I still lean towards below 2.0 blks a game projection, but perhaps I need to readjust that thinking.

 

P.S. That Serge Ibaka comparison is for THIS year. I know that long term Davis will likely be well ahead of Ibaka in fantasy value.


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avatarthebarnes (37 posts)  9/27/2012 11:49 AM

I agree with power and hailfire and I've seen davis play. 

It isn't just surprising but ASTOUNDING at how much everyone overvalued and drools over rookie studs playing against amateurs thinking their skills will directly translate into a professional league and be better than the experienced professionals in it. Buser I'm surprised you seem to get sucked on this. Really surprised. Anyone can supply stats on translatable block specialists from college to pro and many can show you a list of those which didn't translate at all as well. 

Anthony Davis maybe special for many reasons but it doesn't mean straight out of the gate he's gonna be a beast. It doesn't mean he's not gonna hit the rookie wall. It doesn't mean he's not gonna get worn down playing 3 times as many games and practicing every other day. It doesn't mean he's automatically gonna have no issues with his skinny frame matched up against much bigger players. 

People brushing off guys like mutombo and Ibaka by saying davis will be better straight out of the gate isn't just off, it's disrespectful. 

All of my comment is directed towards this season, keeper is a different story. This season he's no where near worth drafting for value returne and who else will be there. As hailfire said I wouldn't draft hibbert there either but if you had the choice and they are similar you certainly wouldn't risk the pick on a rookie. 


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avatarthebarnes (37 posts)  9/27/2012 11:55 AM

And so you can all see how easy it is to pull out stats from a myriad of guys to support your argument here's one: Kenyon Martin was drafted 1 overall and a note college shot blocker and athlete. He averaged around 19/10 with 3.5 blocks a game his final college season. In 34 minutes a game during his rookie year he managed to block 1.7 shots and from 2004 with changes of rules as pointed out astutely by power he only averaged around 1 block. 


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avatarmbuser (4325 posts)  9/27/2012 12:07 PM

Please post your projected per-game line for Davis this season, including minutes. And I'm going to attribute Kenyon's drop-off in blocks to chronic knee problems, not rules changes.


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avatarpower101 (327 posts)  9/27/2012 12:14 PM

can I add one more note on my line of thinking... davis should be there in rd 4, maybe rd 5. He is a rookie. He is obviously a high risk/high reward player with out question. That is what rookies are almost by definition. SO...

 

if in the first few rounds I felt I took zero risks in my pick, then yes, I might be more inclined to go with davis over hibbert for some of that sweet upside potential. BUT if I had say Lowry (due to potential timeshare) or curry (for obvious reasons), I am going to obviously want to be a touch safer later on, which is why I would lean towards hibbert over davis. Less upside, safer pick.

So some of my decisions would be based on how things went previously in the draft.


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avatarJT Marlin (54 posts)  9/27/2012 12:16 PM

It's disrespectful to compare Davis' rookie shot blocking prospects to those of Mutombo & Ibaka's rookie years?? - that's funny stuff!  I don't think anyone was saying that Davis, in his rookie year, was going to be as good as Mutombo in his prime.

Look, either you believe or you don't and I really think there's good arguments on both sides.  It's not just all about the blocks though.  I think he puts up a really solid line of 12PTS/ 10REB/ 1STL/ 2.5BLK/ .525FG%/ .700FT%./ 1.75 TO.  I'm not certain but I think that will equate to top 24 value - maybe even a lot higher.  I will take that potential all day past pick 50.

 


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avatar# 6361 (32 posts)  9/27/2012 1:20 PM

I agree with JT Marlin's projection and might even go slightly higher in blocks in FG%. I don't know why people get so bent out of shape whenever a rookie is projected to do big things. There are times when a special player comes along and that player is a great player right out of the gate. It happens sometimes. 98% of rookies struggle, 2% are awesome from the start. I say Davis is in that 2%.

The college season he had wasn't just good, it was incredible. It may have been the greatest freshman college season of the past 20 years. If you're expecting him to be a great scorer then you're probably gonna be disappointed because that's just not what he is or where his value lies. His value is in impacting the entire floor on the defensive side similar to how Garnett does. Do I think he'll be Garnett this year? No, but I think he's going to win multiple DPOY's in his career.

When you look at big guys who are really good players in the league, someone like Al Horford or Joakim Noah and you look at Davis and his skill set beside guys like that I would take Davis over them right now. Forget college or NBA, just from a skill set and game impact point of view. Right now it sounds crazy because we haven't seen Davis do anything yet and those guys are all-star level players. Again, I think it'll be 2 weeks into the season before it becomes apparent that he's already at their level.

 


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avatartwilo28 (212 posts)  9/27/2012 6:13 PM

ESPN has Davis projected at under 10pts per game, that seems awfully low to me as other projections have him between 12-14. If he doesn't crack 10ppg, I don't see why taking Roy Hibbert a round later wouldn't be a better idea considering that he could give you almost identical reb/blk numbers with more assists. 10ppg is a major drag on your team scoring, especially if you don't have a Lebron or Durant to cover for that kind of deficiency. Opinions?


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avatarcbay (3 posts)  10/25/2012 6:56 PM

Quick question about Davis, do you think that he will get center eligibility in yahoo?  Seems to me that he would be the center with Anderson the pf.  At least on offense, and probably defense.

 

I screwed up in a "pro" league and only drafted 2 centers, Pau and Ayon.....  Other than that little oversight I'm happy with my team!  Thanks for the help.

12 Teams 13 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own Round Rank Value Value2 Name Injury Team Pos g Playoff News min/g pts/g 3/g reb/g ast/g stl/g blk/g fg% fga/g ft% fta/g to/g ptsV 3V rebV astV stlV blkV fg%V ft%V toV
    1 8 0.35 0.00 Wade, Dwyane   MIA PG/SG 70 0   33.0 21.4 0.3 4.9 4.7 1.5 1.2 0.506 16.2 0.779 6.0 2.6 1.54 -0.71 -0.33 0.72 1.29 0.70 0.95 0.05 -1.02
    2 16 0.25 0.00 Gasol, Pau   LAL C/PF 80 0   37.0 16.2 0.2 9.4 4.2 0.5 1.3 0.531 12.7 0.793 3.2 2.0 0.37 -0.92 1.34 0.45 -1.27 0.85 1.33 0.15 -0.04
    2 24 0.22 0.00 George, Paul   IND SG/SF 80 0   33.0 14.1 1.5 6.7 2.8 1.8 0.6 0.443 11.1 0.807 3.5 2.1 -0.10 0.75 0.33 -0.15 1.87 -0.17 -0.65 0.30 -0.19
    3 26 0.21 0.00 Batum, Nicolas   POR SG/SF 78 0   34.0 15.4 2.1 5.2 1.7 1.1 1.0 0.455 12.3 0.840 2.6 1.6 0.19 1.53 -0.21 -0.64 0.07 0.38 -0.45 0.46 0.52
    3 34 0.18 0.00 Davis, Anthony   NOR PF 80 0   33.0 13.9 0.0 9.5 1.5 1.1 2.1 0.532 9.8 0.687 5.1 1.7 -0.15 -1.08 1.36 -0.75 0.09 2.06 1.04 -1.27 0.29
    4 45 0.14 0.00 Teague, Jeff   ATL PG 80 0   33.0 14.0 0.9 2.8 5.3 1.6 0.6 0.493 10.6 0.793 3.3 2.2 -0.14 0.03 -1.08 0.97 1.49 -0.16 0.36 0.16 -0.39
    5 51 0.09 0.00 Leonard, Kawhi   SAS SG/SF 80 0   26.0 10.4 1.0 5.6 1.3 1.5 0.4 0.495 8.2 0.799 1.6 0.9 -0.94 0.19 -0.05 -0.83 1.08 -0.58 0.32 0.10 1.51
    5 57 0.06 0.00 Faried, Kenneth   DEN PF 80 0   28.0 13.0 0.0 9.3 1.0 1.0 1.3 0.590 8.5 0.663 4.6 1.5 -0.35 -1.14 1.31 -0.99 -0.17 0.86 1.82 -1.45 0.66
    7 75 -0.02 0.00 Thomas, Isaiah   SAC PG 79 0   30.0 13.9 1.5 2.9 5.1 1.0 0.1 0.460 10.2 0.826 3.7 1.8 -0.16 0.79 -1.04 0.86 0.01 -0.98 -0.27 0.51 0.13
    7 77 -0.03 0.00 Hill, George   IND PG/SG 78 0   33.0 13.1 1.4 3.8 4.3 1.0 0.3 0.442 10.0 0.789 3.5 1.4 -0.34 0.71 -0.72 0.50 0.04 -0.62 -0.61 0.13 0.68
    7 80 -0.04 0.00 Hayward, Gordon   UTA SG/SF 80 0   33.0 13.4 1.1 3.8 3.6 0.9 0.6 0.472 9.7 0.831 3.8 1.8 -0.26 0.26 -0.73 0.19 -0.29 -0.20 -0.04 0.59 0.13
    7 84 -0.06 0.00 Allen, Ray   MIA SG 78 0   28.0 11.8 2.1 2.5 2.0 0.8 0.1 0.463 8.6 0.913 1.9 1.0 -0.63 1.53 -1.19 -0.53 -0.63 -0.94 -0.18 0.73 1.33
    9 97 -0.09 0.00 Ayon, Gustavo ORL C/PF 74 0   26.0 7.6 0.0 6.6 2.1 1.2 1.2 0.505 6.4 0.657 1.7 1.1 -1.58 -1.14 0.29 -0.48 0.42 0.68 0.37 -0.57 1.19
Own Round Rank Value Value2 Name Injury Team Pos g Playoff News min/g pts/g 3/g reb/g ast/g stl/g blk/g fg% fga/g ft% fta/g to/g ptsV 3V rebV astV stlV blkV fg%V ft%V toV
        1.25 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values       78     31.3 13.7 0.9 5.6 3.0 1.1 0.8 0.490 10.3 0.775 3.4 1.7 -2.56 0.78 -0.72 -0.69 4.00 1.88 3.76 0.01 4.80
        1.25 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values (active)       78     31.3 13.7 0.9 5.6 3.0 1.1 0.8 0.490 10.3 0.775 3.4 1.7 -2.56 0.78 -0.72 -0.69 4.00 1.88 3.76 0.01 4.80

 


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avatarDoomsVille (30 posts)  10/25/2012 10:05 PM

No guarantees he gets centre eligibility. And to be honest, he shouldn't. He will probably see more minutes at SF than C. 

You probably need to try making a few trades to fix your centre issue (you're ridiculously heavy at SG... 7 players eligible for SG). You're definitely going to run into trouble slotting all your players in. And if Ayon just doesn't get a favorable spot in the magic rotation, you may have to drop him (bringing you down to 1 C). I'd start looking to move some of those SGs asap.


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avatarcbay (3 posts)  10/26/2012 7:19 PM

I hope you're wrong but thanks for the response. I'm taking your advise and offering 4 trades, so maybe I can balance out.  The problem with BM is that I have higher opinions of my players than other managers.  Thanks for looking at my team.


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avatarPetrocelli (302 posts)  10/26/2012 7:34 PM

I apid $32 for him in a keeper league with $260 to bid.  (See team below.)  BBM put his value at $29 under my league's format.  BBM has him ranked 33, and I think that's about right.  He is a great defensive player, and he's on a weak team, so he should get a lot of looks just to keep the fans happy.

I watch a lot of basketball.  I think the odds are good we are looking at a hall of famer.

Petrocelli

 

10 Teams 16 Per Team $260 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own Round Rank Value Value2 Name Injury Team Pos g Playoff News min/g pts/g 3/g reb/g ast/g stl/g blk/g fg% fga/g ft% fta/g to/g ptsV 3V rebV astV stlV blkV fg%V ft%V toV
    1 1 0.89 0.00 Durant, Kevin   OKC SF 81 0   39.0 29.0 2.1 8.0 3.5 1.3 1.2 0.498 20.1 0.883 7.8 3.8 3.30 1.63 0.86 0.16 0.80 0.67 0.86 2.42 -2.65
    1 7 0.38 0.00 Jefferson, Al   UTA PF/C 80 0   34.0 18.9 0.0 9.4 2.3 0.7 1.7 0.497 16.8 0.766 2.8 1.0 1.00 -1.13 1.36 -0.41 -0.82 1.53 0.72 -0.08 1.26
    2 20 0.25 0.00 Lawson, Ty   DEN PG 80 0   35.0 17.2 1.3 3.8 6.9 1.4 0.1 0.501 12.8 0.818 3.7 2.6 0.63 0.57 -0.72 1.68 0.92 -1.01 0.65 0.45 -0.92
    3 21 0.24 0.00 Lowry, Kyle   TOR PG 77 0   34.0 15.3 1.9 4.4 7.3 1.6 0.3 0.420 11.7 0.858 4.2 2.8 0.21 1.30 -0.48 1.87 1.42 -0.69 -1.21 0.99 -1.27
    4 33 0.19 0.00 Davis, Anthony   NOR PF 80 0   33.0 13.9 0.0 9.5 1.5 1.1 2.1 0.532 9.8 0.687 5.1 1.7 -0.11 -1.07 1.39 -0.75 0.11 2.08 1.06 -1.30 0.27
    5 41 0.16 0.00 Gallinari, Danilo   DEN SF 72 0   32.0 15.9 1.7 4.9 2.4 1.0 0.5 0.428 11.0 0.865 5.5 1.4 0.33 1.10 -0.29 -0.34 -0.13 -0.43 -0.96 1.41 0.74
    6 55 0.07 0.00 Faried, Kenneth   DEN PF 80 0   28.0 13.0 0.0 9.3 1.0 1.0 1.3 0.590 8.5 0.663 4.6 1.5 -0.31 -1.13 1.34 -0.99 -0.14 0.88 1.84 -1.48 0.64
    7 63 0.05 0.00 Martin, Kevin   HOU SG 76 0   33.0 19.0 2.1 3.0 2.8 0.9 0.1 0.425 14.1 0.892 5.5 2.1 1.03 1.60 -1.02 -0.16 -0.26 -0.95 -1.32 1.83 -0.27
    7 65 0.04 0.00 Varejao, Anderson   CLE PF/C 74 0   33.0 10.9 0.0 10.8 1.7 1.1 1.0 0.535 8.5 0.672 2.6 1.7 -0.79 -1.13 1.86 -0.68 0.30 0.35 0.98 -0.80 0.27
    7 70 0.00 0.00 Young, Thaddeus   PHI SF/PF 80 0   30.0 13.4 0.0 5.3 1.2 1.1 0.6 0.527 11.1 0.757 2.3 1.0 -0.22 -1.13 -0.17 -0.88 0.31 -0.15 1.10 -0.13 1.32
    8 80 -0.03 0.00 Hayward, Gordon   UTA SG/SF 80 0   33.0 13.4 1.1 3.8 3.6 0.9 0.6 0.472 9.7 0.831 3.8 1.8 -0.22 0.28 -0.72 0.19 -0.26 -0.19 -0.04 0.60 0.11
    9 85 -0.05 0.00 Miles, CJ   CLE SG/SF 75 0   32.0 15.7 1.6 3.8 2.1 1.2 0.6 0.415 13.9 0.797 3.2 1.5 0.30 0.96 -0.72 -0.48 0.55 -0.28 -1.55 0.19 0.58
    10 94 -0.07 0.00 Wright, Dorell   PHI SG/SF 80 0   26.0 10.5 1.8 3.9 1.5 1.0 0.4 0.429 8.6 0.814 1.6 0.8 -0.89 1.17 -0.67 -0.75 -0.08 -0.47 -0.73 0.17 1.58
    10 96 -0.08 0.00 Ayon, Gustavo ORL PF/C 74 0   26.0 7.6 0.0 6.6 2.1 1.2 1.2 0.505 6.4 0.657 1.7 1.1 -1.54 -1.13 0.31 -0.48 0.44 0.69 0.38 -0.58 1.17
    11 101 -0.10 0.00 Parsons, Chandler   HOU SF/PF 80 0   32.0 11.7 1.2 5.2 2.5 1.2 0.5 0.464 10.2 0.623 1.6 1.5 -0.61 0.46 -0.21 -0.32 0.51 -0.44 -0.19 -0.73 0.62
    21 203 -0.40 0.00 Crowder, Jae   DAL SF/PF 80 0   21.0 7.9 0.5 3.9 1.0 1.0 0.4 0.456 6.8 0.685 1.8 1.0 -1.46 -0.48 -0.66 -0.96 -0.04 -0.56 -0.23 -0.49 1.23
Own Round Rank Value Value2 Name Injury Team Pos g Playoff News min/g pts/g 3/g reb/g ast/g stl/g blk/g fg% fga/g ft% fta/g to/g ptsV 3V rebV astV stlV blkV fg%V ft%V toV
        1.53 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values       78     31.3 14.6 1.0 6.0 2.7 1.1 0.8 0.479 11.3 0.791 3.6 1.7 0.65 1.89 1.44 -3.30 3.65 1.02 1.06 2.64 4.68
        2.17 0.00 Avg Stats/Total Values (active)       78     32.5 15.9 1.0 6.3 3.0 1.1 0.8 0.486 11.9 0.804 4.1 1.8 3.96 2.08 2.72 -1.06 2.19 1.61 2.73 4.20 1.08

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avatarfsr085 (28 posts)  11/6/2012 3:15 AM

There seems to be a lack of information on Davis' status for Wed. All I see is that he still has to be tested. J.J. Barea suffered a "mild" concussion on Sunday but he got tested and got cleared to play today(Monday). Is there something I'm missing here?


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avatarPetrocelli (302 posts)  1/12/2013 9:53 AM

Does anyone know whay this guy's stats suck so badly? Wha' happen?


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