mbuser (4325 posts)  10/1/2012 3:14 PM

Eric Gordon has had some soreness and swelling in his right knee — that would be the one he had surgery on last season that cost him most of the year — so the Hornets are going slow with him during training camp, the team announced. They used the words “limited participation.” Meaning he is sitting out the most strenuous drills.

“The team is taking a cautious approach with Eric to give him the best chance to be ready for the season,” General Manager Dell Demps said in a released statement.

link

dasein (614 posts)  10/1/2012 3:22 PM

Gordon is a guy that will look great on someone else's team. 

enjoy that exciting young nucleus NOLA! 

jeocon10 (19 posts)  10/1/2012 5:44 PM

Welp. Hope it wasn't a mistake taking a chance on him this year...

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  10/1/2012 6:22 PM

good new I got Eric Gordon in the 5th round

Bad news I got Eric Gordon in the 5th round

JT Marlin (54 posts)  10/2/2012 8:52 AM

You guys had your drafts already before training camp has even started?  Why draft so early?  Hope it's not a big money league.

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  10/2/2012 10:18 AM

I always draft my winner league team early. i find i can draft a better team while the league is still asleep. This allows me to be in a winner league next year. Once training camp opens and preseason games start the level of perception rises. Injuries can happen anytime but getting Stuckey in the 11th round can only happen early. i have my winner league draft posted in an earlier thread if u wish to peruse it.

littlejon20 (1 posts)  10/3/2012 3:47 PM

Gettting Rodney Stuckey in the 11th round can happen late too. below average starting guards will little upside and no range really aren't that coveted for some reason.   So help yourself, make sure you follow it up with Corrie and Ronnie Brewer in rd 12 &13.

dosequisguy (21 posts)  10/29/2012 3:29 PM

Is this guy going to play this week or not?  Anyone know?

dosequisguy (21 posts)  10/29/2012 3:36 PM

I'm in a head to head matchup this week and the only stats that are going to be competitive are points and steals.  I have to start all of the following except 1:

Thornton

RIP Hamilton

Batum

Eric Gordon

Wesley Matthews

Ariza (if I start Ariza I should win steals)

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/29/2012 5:07 PM

I would sit EG (atleast for 1st week and then see what after), he didnt play for months (almost years).

dalpsar (25 posts)  10/31/2012 10:37 AM

According to Rotoworld, he is out indefinitely, yikes! 

circatbs (29 posts)  10/31/2012 10:52 AM

I can't believe anyone expected this guy to stay healthy. 

maxdiblasi (9 posts)  10/31/2012 11:02 AM

Who is going to take his Minutes? Roger Mason jr? Austin rivers? 

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/31/2012 11:11 AM

Cought up with him last year in two Keeper/Dynasty leagues (Cap Braggin's Roto and 2nd where IR thing is set), didnt draft him at all this year, like Amare-he is forever "dead" to me.

mbuser (4325 posts)  10/31/2012 12:09 PM

Looks like you were on to something, toni.

New Orleans Hornets guard Eric Gordon out indefinitely with recurring knee problems link

New Orleans Hornets shooting guard Eric Gordon will be out indefinitely, Coach Monty Williams said Wednesday morning, though neither Williams nor Gordon could shed any light on the severity of the right knee problem that kept the team's max money player sidelined through the entirety of training camp.

"He's going to be out," Williams said. "The way I understand it, he's going to be out indefinitely until we get some more clarity on what's going on so I don't have to answer these questions every day and give you guys the update. We'll just go from there."

Rookie Austin Rivers will start Wednesday night against the San Antonio Spurs at the two-guard spot.

Bump up all Hornets regulars in terms of usage, and Rivers, Xavier Henry, Vasquez, and Roger Mason get the minutes.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/31/2012 12:15 PM

Dont cheering for any player injuries but man, I'm so happy N.O. got what they deserved after nixed CP3 trade, karma is beyochhh, and God forbid N.O. didnt matched Suns offer, we will be stuck with forever damaged goods.

mbuser (4325 posts)  10/31/2012 12:59 PM

I think your anger is misguided, toni, but it's true that the NBA braintrust funked that situation up royally.

mbuser (4325 posts)  10/31/2012 1:00 PM

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
Hornets G Eric Gordon expected to address media tomorrow regarding his "indefinite" absence due to persistent knee soreness, source says.

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
While there is no new medical knowledge on Gordon, he "didn't feel 100 percent" after going through drills in recent days, source said.

mbuser (4325 posts)  10/31/2012 1:26 PM

Weekly minutes now reflect Gordon being out of the picture.

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  10/31/2012 2:11 PM

Honestly my first inclination is to flat cut him in my winners league. however I will show some restraint. I envision the same game played last year. Doctors saying there is nothing physical wrong, EG saying the tremendous pain is too much. I am not sure how long I will let him rot on my bench before getting a useable guy who wants to play. EG had all frikkin summer and offseason to get anything fixxed that can be fixxed. Waiting til the season is awful for everybody but the malingerer. Why New Orleans matched for this guy after last year is a mystery.

redhopeful (89 posts)  10/31/2012 2:34 PM

Dont cheering for any player injuries but man, I'm so happy N.O. got what they deserved after nixed CP3 trade, karma is beyochhh, and God forbid N.O. didnt matched Suns offer, we will be stuck with forever damaged goods.

What a horrible thing to say.

I'd attempt to show the error in your ways but I feel I'd be wasting my time. 

redhopeful (89 posts)  10/31/2012 2:37 PM

Honestly my first inclination is to flat cut him in my winners league. however I will show some restraint. I envision the same game played last year. Doctors saying there is nothing physical wrong, EG saying the tremendous pain is too much. I am not sure how long I will let him rot on my bench before getting a useable guy who wants to play. EG had all frikkin summer and offseason to get anything fixxed that can be fixxed. Waiting til the season is awful for everybody but the malingerer. Why New Orleans matched for this guy after last year is a mystery.

Yeah, hailfire, that's what I'm doing in one league - waiting. IF this situation is what it appears to be, Gordon will get on the court in the near future so that he gives Demps a chance to deal him on DEC. 15.

fbroto (164 posts)  10/31/2012 2:57 PM

Can anyone project the effect on Vasquez's numbers?

odin426 (393 posts)  10/31/2012 3:07 PM

Also Austin Rivers pls? I know he was pretty bad in the preseason but is he really that bad?

mbuser (4325 posts)  10/31/2012 3:17 PM

They both play a bit more, but there are not massive swings in their expected per-minute production. Rivers is not ready to be a productive fantasy player, so don't get too excited. At this point, he's an inefficient scorer and not much else - playing against reserves would be a much better spot for him.

# 13402 (19 posts)  10/31/2012 3:59 PM

thoughts on rivers? college/summer/preseason stats look terrible.

redhopeful (89 posts)  10/31/2012 4:15 PM

Rivers will start, so he'll get most of them. Will also see Aminu sliding over to the 2 playing in bigger lineups.

Can't agree with the second part as Aminu is strictly a 3 on the team. Guys that can play behind Rivers include Mason, Miller, Henry and even Roberts.

jeocon10 (19 posts)  10/31/2012 4:22 PM

There are reports saying that he's healthy, completely cleared to play, but maybe he's faking knee pain 'cause he doesn't wanna play for NO? What a messed up situation.  Only have him in 1 league though...

dsschmidt20 (19 posts)  10/31/2012 4:25 PM

Yeah, a lot of the quotes from Monty Williams that I've been seeing seem to suggest there may be something going on here other than knee pain...

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/31/2012 6:15 PM

"your anger is misguided" "What a horrible thing to say.I'd attempt to show the error in your ways but I feel I'd be wasting my time".

What anger (and what is horrible?)  I'm never anger, not in real sport events (when fantasy is not included) and also not in any fantasy situation(s), I dont know from where all that comes up (to conclude that), if you do not understand me saying that I do not EVER wish any player any injuries-I'm helpless not understanding that but reality is different and all the time someone have some tough injury which I can only reflect with facts about it, and fact is it that Stern has screwed up everything with that CP3 trade and fact is it N.O. after that idiocy decision making got EG in different trade, and fact is he cant get on court in any scenario bc of his injuries, and fact is it Suns offered insane $ for him and fact is (fortunate for Suns) N.O. has matched that looney offer. Just stating the facts and dont see anything wrong 1% about stating what is reality, and fact is that karma is the beyochhhh in real life. I do not cheer for anything when injuries are in question, not in one direction or another, it is what it is...

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/31/2012 6:21 PM

And trust me, having him in keeper & dynasty leagues I would first be satisfied if he play 82 games every season untill end of his career, and also even if I do not have him in any roster(s)- never rooting for anything bad to anyone (and injuries in sports are included) but also I cant be blind about reality & facts.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  10/31/2012 6:29 PM

And that would be scenario for which I would cheer=HE IS HEALTHY BUT DO NOT WANT TO PLAY FOR THEM, THAT WOULD BE SUPER COOL!!!

redhopeful (89 posts)  10/31/2012 11:20 PM

Dude, quit trying to spin this:

I'm so happy N.O. got what they deserved after nixed CP3 trade, karma is beyochhh

Your words rang crystal clear and it was completely uncalled for. Next time, realize you shouldn't put ill wishes in writing.

chrisgunawan (1 posts)  11/1/2012 1:20 AM

Something smells fishy. Any thoughts mbuser? Should I drop this guy?

mbuser (4325 posts)  11/1/2012 11:14 AM

A bit early to drop him if you tied yourself to him in a draft in the first place. He's supposed to address the media today regarding his injury, perhaps we get some clarification.

New Orleans Hornets fans still waiting to see Eric Gordon in uniform link

mbuser (4325 posts)  11/1/2012 1:08 PM

In a bit of a contradictory appearance before the media post-practice on Thursday, New Orleans Hornets shooting guard Eric Gordon conceded that physicians determined there is some damage causing the pain in his right knee, though Gordon said initially there was no structural compromise.

Gordon said the latest MRI results, and continued pain, are the reasons he missed Wednesday night's season-opening loss to the San Antonio Spurs and has been ruled out indefinitely.

"I've had MRIs, and I went to the team and they've always been aware of my injury. I have had MRIs lately, so I'm looking forward to seeing what's happening this weekend to see what's furthermore. .. . I will hear what the doctor's thinking this weekend."

"That's the reason why I'm not playing," Gordon said. "The past three days I've been practicing because I thought it would be something I might have to deal with pain-wise. I went to the organization the other day and told them 'This is not feeling too good. It's very painful.' We went and got another MRI."

link

So we'll see what they say this weekend, but the chance that it's relatively good news appears to be slim. Should you wait 48 hours for official updates before making a roster move? Probably.

power101 (327 posts)  11/1/2012 1:13 PM

"but getting Stuckey in the 11th round can only happen early. i have my winner league draft posted in an earlier thread if u wish to peruse it."

Just like someone else mentioned, I also got stucky late (11th round actually) and my draft was a week before season started.
 

Sribb43 (66 posts)  11/1/2012 3:10 PM

Im going to offer Gordon for Asik.  Willing to take whatever before the bad news comes in....

mbuser (4325 posts)  11/1/2012 3:18 PM

Yeah I'm all for trying to sneak a trade in here - if the other team bites, it's their problem - but the add/drops should probably wait.

Sribb43 (66 posts)  11/1/2012 3:48 PM

Well just acquired Batum for Gordon/Gallo.  can replace Gallo with some guy on waivers for 3's.  Either guy is really hurt or still bitter about NO matching PHX offer sheet

power101 (327 posts)  11/1/2012 3:56 PM

nice deal. got rid of a headache and upgraded gallo to batum.

although quick question...which round did you draft gordon in?

Sribb43 (66 posts)  11/1/2012 4:01 PM

Well he was actually a keeper. My final keeper was between Wall and Gordon and I picked Gordon thinking he was the healthiest of the two....

tator3734 (10 posts)  11/1/2012 5:16 PM

With Gordon out for an extended amount of time, should I pick up Aminu? or should I pick up Rivers (depending on when he can start to produce).

Aminu had a really good line last night and I can afford to drop either Harrison Barnes or CJ miles (Miles production projections go down in my book after how well Waiters played the other night).

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/1/2012 5:41 PM

What a mess in N.O. with this guy... Didnt think anyone can top Steph but boy I have been wrong about that.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/1/2012 5:54 PM

Its clear you will think what you want to think (you are some psychic I guess and read my mind with written words), dont care one yota what you think and do not want to waste any time bc of it.

"I'm so happy N.O. got what they deserved after nixed CP3 trade, karma is beyochhh"

Just to be clear I stand behind my words, if you didnt get the point-its not my problem, keep believing whatever you want.

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  11/1/2012 8:28 PM

As an Eric Gordon owner i will be clear. I am not happy. He had the whole offseason after all last year to get his knee fixxed. Doctor after doctor says he has no physical reason for any discomfort. Besides the owner of the Hornets, Benson didn't even own the franchise at the first CP3 trade fiasco. If I was the Hornets I would suspend him for breach of contract. Chronic malingering or faking an injury must be suspendable. EGordon can feel free to find a doctor somewhere/anywhere who can discover a razor blade in his knee causing the pain. In fact EGordon should be the first guy who would want to find what his phantom pain is caused by. EGordon saying he had a "setback" is vague and untruthful. it is a lie. U must be in rehab to have a setback. Besides as the doctors say there is nothing wrong but EGordon being lazy.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/1/2012 8:34 PM

Its possible you are on some good trail HF... This will be resolved sooner or later.

twilo28 (212 posts)  11/2/2012 12:36 AM

I'm honestly starting to think that he really just doesn't want to play in NO and is doing this intentionally. I got that feeling last year and it seems like its the same deal all over again. Nobody can be hurt for that long and if he is, he should just retire.

jphanned (90 posts)  11/2/2012 12:41 AM

Just a weird situation overall. There was a piece by Berger that said he hasn't issued a trade demand, but that could very well be because he can't be traded (per CBA rules) since he just signed a new deal. Damn am I glad I stayed the heck away from him in drafts this year.

twilo28 (212 posts)  11/2/2012 1:59 AM

@Hailfire - do you play in a winners league? That's really awesome. Good for you. Do you know why you play in a winners league? Probably because you're a winner.

tagnc (26 posts)  11/2/2012 2:53 PM

New damage found in Gordon's knee, looks to be out awhile. I just accepted a Gerald green for Eric gordon, but its looking like its time to take what you can get or cut ties.

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  11/2/2012 3:54 PM

If I was the Hornets I would look to void that contract. Apparently he was told last year that he needed this microfracture surgery. Him and his agent passed because of the free agency ramifications. Now that he has gotten his big contract he is now willing to do the procedure. Fraud will invalidate any contract in America. Of course the Hornet doctors look like toolboxes for not finding this. Oden had the exact same problem and prolly the exact same result. Happy Trails EGordon u had some big time skills and potential at one time.

jeocon10 (19 posts)  11/2/2012 4:05 PM

4-6 weeks according to Marc Spears

mbuser (4325 posts)  11/2/2012 4:42 PM

Kinda sounds like last season, doesn't it? 

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  11/2/2012 5:06 PM

Oh brother now it is back to no surgery just 4 to 6 weeks of malingering. When u are still resting in November from surgery in February u are 1 slow flippin healer. Why will 4 more weeks of rest work now that it has failed for the last 8 months????????

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/2/2012 5:19 PM

I'm done with waiting, even if he end up at All Star selection & first NBA team will gladly drop him with out any regrets, good luck N.O. with this comedy,  its well deserved after same thing all last season and this summer too (before matching PHX offer when he stated do not want to play in N.O. bc "his heart is not overthere").

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  11/2/2012 5:28 PM

I own Eric Gordon in 1 league. Now I am going to have to use a 1 waiver claim to get him cause Toni dropped him. at least Novak is not a big drop.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/2/2012 5:37 PM

Be my guest, in a month or two or in a few yrs maybe he can string few weeks of play, this is my tactic, to have him with Dirk&Love plus #1 waiver is gone

TimD21 (43 posts)  11/2/2012 6:26 PM

Wow, just gotta say E gordon is much worse than dwight and lebron combined. After handing him out a max contract, i cant believe he's acting like this to NOH franchise. The sad thing about it is that he seems to be lying to everyone based on his actions and reactions...

w1w1 (1 posts)  11/3/2012 5:14 AM

6 weeks? Perfect time for his eligibility to be traded. I own this guy, but now  I do wish NOLA would just bench him for the rest of the year.
If he really hate to play for NOLA, he should have waited a year so he is unrestricted free agent so NOLA had no chance to match the contract.
Getting paid 14.5 million a year yet acted very unprofessional. I wish the media would burn this guy more

tonika_zr (991 posts)  11/5/2012 1:53 PM

Same old song... Dont care anymore bc I cut him without any regrets but man, this is a parody with no end in sight.

jphanned (90 posts)  11/5/2012 1:57 PM

He should be off standard H2H rosters by now. If you're in a ROTO league makes sense to stash him, but keep expectations low and in check.

ironsij0287 (4 posts)  11/28/2012 11:01 AM

My buddy and I co-manage a team and traded Iguodala for Klay Thompson and Eric Gordon the other week.  Stashing him away for now in hopes that maybe, some day, he'll play.

Our team is in first and we're winning each week so far so we figured it was worth the risk.  If it fails to produce we at least got Klay Thompson as a potential 9th round keeper next season in a 12 team league so that's nice.

mbuser (4325 posts)  12/7/2012 12:17 PM

New Orleans Hornets shooting guard Eric Gordon is making progress in his rehabilitation work in Los Angeles to recover from a sore right knee, according to the team. Gordon was sent to Los Angeles a month ago to get more personalized rehabilitation work to help in his knee recovery and to strengthen his quad muscles. Hornets spokesman Harold Kaufman said Thursday that Gordon’s quad muscles have strengthened to 65 percent, but there remains no set timetable on his return.

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/12/new_orleans_hornets_injured_gu_1.html

mbuser (4325 posts)  12/20/2012 12:55 PM

New Orleans Hornets shooting guard Eric Gordon will rejoin the team in New Orleans on Saturday after spending a month going through extensive rehabilitation work in Los Angeles. Hornets General Manager Dell Demps said the team won't make a determination when Gordon will play his first game until after he goes through a couple of practices with his teammates. Gordon predicted Wednesday he will make his debut before the end of this month.
http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/12/post_64.html

mbuser (4325 posts)  12/26/2012 6:31 PM

New Orleans Hornets shooting guard Eric Gordon could make his much anticipated regular-season debut Saturday on the road against the Charlotte Bobcats. Coach Monty Williams said Gordon continues to make progress and predicted he could play Saturday. Gordon has missed all 27 games this season because of a patella tendon disorder and bone bruise in his right knee, which required arthroscopic surgery last season that forced him miss all but nine games. "If I had to guess it would be Saturday against Charlotte,’’ Williams said before Wednesday night’s game against the Orlando Magic. "A lot of that is me, and we want to make sure that we bring him back when he’s in a lot better shape. He’s spent so much time rehabbing and getting his quad stronger, but we have to make sure he’s in a good place before he comes back.’’

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/12/new_orleans_hornets_guard_eric_44.html

twilo28 (212 posts)  12/26/2012 7:43 PM

I have a feeling Eric Gordon will come back strong and have a big impact. I'm expecting nothing so whatever he does will be a pleasant surprise. 

tonika_zr (991 posts)  12/26/2012 9:48 PM

KEY WORDS: HEALTH & INJURY, if he get 1st and awoid 2nd no doubt you will be right twilo, but thats a big if, I wish him luck (really, no sarcasm).

mbuser (4325 posts)  1/6/2013 6:31 PM

So, with Gordon playing 35 minutes last night, I had to ramp up the expected minutes going forward. We had him scaling up at a relatively modest pace, but that doesn't seem like the plan any more. Gordon is either going to be healthy or get hurt, but either way it looks like he's going to play plenty moving forward.

mafix (100 posts)  1/18/2013 3:13 AM

what type of player (round) would you trade for gordon at this point?

twilo28 (212 posts)  1/19/2013 10:29 AM

What did I say about Gordon! I just had a good feeling about him coming back strong. I wanna make a remix of that Black Eyed Peas song 'I gotta feeling'. I gotta feeling, that Eric Gordon's gonna have an impact,Eric Gordon's gonna have a big impact.

twilo28 (212 posts)  1/19/2013 10:46 AM

Honestly, I would wait a week or two till he rounds in to form and has a few explosive performances. I just traded Hibbert for him in an 8 cat roto lg cuz I need scoring (I stupidly dropped him earlier in the year so I paid for him twice DOH!)  Also traded Wall, Gordon, Kirilenko for T.Parker & Sanders in a 9 cat roto lg. Oh yeah, some other trades I saw guys pull off involving Gordon were Klay for EG and Dwight & EG for Z-BO.

mafix (100 posts)  1/19/2013 1:36 PM

perfect, thanks a lot twilo.  ill definitely wait before making a move.

# 29652 (2 posts)  1/23/2013 1:32 PM

Obviously not that anyone knows for sure but how likely do people think it is that EG will sit for the second game in next week's back to backs (1/29 @ LAL, 1/30 @ UTA, 2/1 @ DEN, 2/2 @ MIN)? Given that he sat out on two previous back to backs, it's probably pretty likely no? I am in a weekly H2H so trying to assess the risk I would be taking.

mbuser (4325 posts)  1/24/2013 6:56 PM

I'd call the chances very good that he sits those, or at least one, given the proxomity.

mbuser (4325 posts)  5/10/2013 5:16 PM

He's going to make just under $45M over the next three seasons. ADP of 54.6 this season. Closer to 100 next season?