mbuser (4328 posts)  12/23/2012 4:03 PM

Utah Jazz ‏@utahjazz
Mo Williams will not play today after an MRI revealed damage to his right thumb. He is out indefinitely & will be reevaluated in SLC.

This doesn't sound good, although any move related to a Williams add/drop has to wait for a specific update. Tinsley should get the starts in the interim and can get a look for deep-league purposes.

There's also talk that a long-term injury could be the impetus for the Millsap and/or Al Jefferson trade(s), given that Williams is also an expiring deal.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/UTA.html

vnmslsrbms (65 posts)  12/23/2012 11:05 PM

Does anyone know how long he was out for the same type of injury in the 07-08 season?

mbuser (4328 posts)  12/24/2012 12:58 AM

Hard to say, because he did it towards the end of the season, tried to play through it but eventually shut it down and underwent off-season surgery.

odin426 (393 posts)  12/24/2012 1:35 AM

If they were to trade for a PG who would you see as likely candidates? You don't think Tinsley has it in him to be a NBA starter?

mbuser (4328 posts)  12/24/2012 1:45 AM

Tinsley is 34 years old and certainly not someone they want to rely on over a substantial length of time. With Mo expiring, PG would be a position of need, but there aren't exactly a lot of PG on the market, either.

odin426 (393 posts)  12/24/2012 2:04 AM

Could you see them going after IT2 since SAC is so reluctant to give him run even if the players want him there? Im trying to figure out good trade targets before the other managers in my league catch on 

mafix (100 posts)  12/24/2012 2:51 AM

whos going to be the best PG to pick up (for steals and assists) out of the pack?

vnmslsrbms (65 posts)  12/24/2012 9:35 AM

Dug something up that said last time he has surgery he was out six weeks from basketball related activity.  Does that mean 7-8 weeks before he returns?  This sucks.  Should I drop him and pick him back up later?

mbuser (4328 posts)  12/24/2012 11:52 AM

I'd wait for official confirmation to be sure, but that's a likely timeframe if he does need surgery. Tinsley will be the best PG to pick up out of the pack, but don't be expecting robust lines.

kenjlev18 (4 posts)  12/24/2012 12:21 PM

Tinsley or Brooks as a pick up if needed?

Cap. (518 posts)  12/24/2012 2:10 PM

maybe a millsap-calderon trade is coming soon.

# 17431 (38 posts)  12/24/2012 2:50 PM

Wow - that would be great for TO fans!

ensignwkm (15 posts)  12/24/2012 3:47 PM

Hey Cap I don't see that happening since Lowry is so injury prone and the Raps are actually making some noise now with Jose.

Cap. (518 posts)  12/24/2012 4:36 PM

I think the 9-19 Raptors are pretty much going to explore their options this month, and if they want to sell Bargnani as a 11-12 million dollar player to other teams, then Calderon is that other trade chip that makes it happen.  I don't see why Utah would want Bargnani, but if Calderon's on the out, then there's a bunch of players Utah has that Toronto wants.  Maybe a third team takes "Il Mago".

ricecuker (16 posts)  12/26/2012 11:59 AM

"Severely" and Mo Williams are never a good combination to hear in sentence. I knew what I was getting into when I drafted him and already regret it. There is no timetable yet, but the way Mo heals up, doesnt sound like any time soon. Time to drop?

Noteable adds on the wire:

Tinsley, Sessions, Ridnour, Hedo (back soon?), Terry, Dunleavy, Dorell Wright

As you can see my team is dropping like flies.

10 Teams 14 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
	2	11	0.33	Westbrook, Russell		OKC	PG	55		36.0	22.4	1.6	4.5	8.6	1.8	0.3	0.434	18.1	0.802	6.3	3.3	1.80	0.78	-0.49	2.31	1.75	-0.62	-1.09	0.39	-1.83
	3	30	0.15	Sanders, Larry		MIL	PF/C	50		27.0	8.4	0.0	8.5	1.2	0.9	3.1	0.525	6.9	0.595	1.8	1.4	-1.54	-1.12	1.04	-0.89	-0.54	3.76	0.75	-0.88	0.80
	4	34	0.14	Davis, Anthony		NOR	PF	54		30.0	14.6	0.0	7.5	0.7	1.0	2.0	0.510	10.4	0.770	5.2	1.7	-0.05	-1.12	0.64	-1.08	-0.20	1.97	0.83	-0.12	0.34
	4	35	0.13	Matthews, Wesley		POR	SG/SF	55		36.0	15.9	2.1	3.2	2.5	1.6	0.3	0.436	12.5	0.805	3.5	1.5	0.24	1.40	-1.00	-0.32	1.24	-0.67	-0.69	0.24	0.69
	5	42	0.08	Parsons, Chandler		HOU	SF/PF	54		37.0	14.7	2.1	6.4	3.4	1.2	0.2	0.446	12.0	0.740	2.5	1.8	-0.02	1.43	0.21	0.06	0.36	-0.81	-0.45	-0.26	0.20
	5	48	0.06	Thompson, Klay		GSW	SG/SF	53		36.0	16.6	2.7	4.2	2.8	1.0	0.5	0.423	14.4	0.865	2.0	1.9	0.43	2.06	-0.61	-0.20	-0.20	-0.36	-1.15	0.46	0.13
	6	55	0.03	Iguodala, Andre		DEN	SG/SF	50		35.0	14.5	1.3	6.0	4.6	1.6	0.8	0.459	11.9	0.690	3.3	2.6	-0.08	0.38	0.07	0.57	1.13	0.06	-0.16	-0.79	-0.89
	6	59	0.02	Pekovic, Nikola		MIN	C	54		32.0	16.8	0.0	8.4	1.2	0.7	0.8	0.535	12.5	0.778	4.4	2.0	0.48	-1.12	0.97	-0.87	-0.90	0.11	1.58	-0.01	-0.07
	7	67	-0.03	Gasol, Pau		LAL	PF/C	53		32.0	13.3	0.0	8.2	3.3	0.5	1.2	0.497	10.9	0.780	3.1	1.7	-0.37	-1.12	0.90	0.02	-1.33	0.66	0.61	0.01	0.39
	8	76	-0.07	Cousins, DeMarcus		SAC	PF/C	54		32.0	17.8	0.0	10.4	2.0	1.4	0.9	0.450	15.8	0.705	5.0	2.7	0.70	-1.12	1.75	-0.56	0.81	0.25	-0.49	-0.99	-0.94
	8	77	-0.07	Nelson, Jameer		ORL	PG	51		34.0	14.4	1.8	4.1	6.8	1.1	0.1	0.430	12.8	0.823	2.0	2.6	-0.10	1.00	-0.67	1.54	0.09	-0.99	-0.86	0.24	-0.85
	9	83	-0.10	Gordon, Eric		NOR	SG	39		29.7	18.2	1.5	2.3	3.3	1.0	0.2	0.454	13.6	0.811	5.4	2.1	0.81	0.62	-1.32	0.00	-0.19	-0.75	-0.32	0.46	-0.21
	9	85	-0.11	Kidd-Gilchrist, Michael		CHA	SF	54		29.2	11.6	0.0	6.3	1.9	1.0	1.3	0.495	9.1	0.745	3.5	1.6	-0.76	-1.12	0.19	-0.60	-0.27	0.88	0.48	-0.32	0.52
	9	90	-0.12	Williams, Mo		UTA	PG/SG	42		31.0	13.3	1.5	2.4	6.4	0.9	0.3	0.448	11.1	0.901	2.1	2.3	-0.36	0.61	-1.31	1.37	-0.54	-0.73	-0.37	0.68	-0.40
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
			0.44	Avg Stats/Total Values				51		32.6	15.2	1.0	5.9	3.5	1.1	0.9	0.463	12.3	0.771	3.6	2.1	1.17	1.58	0.38	1.35	1.21	2.75	-1.46	-0.90	-2.11
			0.44	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				51		32.6	15.2	1.0	5.9	3.5	1.1	0.9	0.463	12.3	0.771	3.6	2.1	1.17	1.58	0.38	1.35	1.21	2.75	-1.46	-0.90	-2.11

mbuser (4328 posts)  12/26/2012 12:01 PM

With those options, I'd offer him to a top team that can offord to wait on an injury first - it's very doubtful that he'd clear waivers.

tacojoe (11 posts)  12/27/2012 3:28 PM

I'm eagerly awaiting Mo Will updates.  What would you say the likely minimum time he'll sit out is?  If it's over 2 weeks, I'll want to replace him.  

I'm thinking about picking up Chalmers to replace fill in the PG spot.

twilo28 (212 posts)  12/28/2012 12:44 AM

"Out indefinitely" is a label that fills me with fear.  That being said, I don't think Mo's injury is all that serious but him being constantly nicked up is becoming tiresome. 

ferris (307 posts)  12/28/2012 10:18 AM

i sincerely doubt that it will be under 2 weeks

mbuser (4328 posts)  1/2/2013 6:55 PM

Following a second magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) test and a consultation between Dr. Michelle Carlson and the Utah Jazz medical staff, it was determined that Williams will undergo surgery on his right thumb on Friday, January 4. Following the procedure, his thumb will be placed in a splint for approximately six weeks, at which point he will be re-evaluated. Williams will be able to participate in conditioning and restricted weight training during this time period.
http://www.nba.com/jazz/news/mo-williams-undergo-surgery-right-thumb

So there's the bad news we hoped wasn't coming. Six weeks in a splint means closer to two months off the active roster, which makes him expendable in most formats. Now we see if this prompts the Jazz to make some other larger moves. Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap, and MoWill are all expiring contracts.

tacojoe (11 posts)  1/3/2013 8:49 PM

Shiittt.  Gonna drop him for Amir but I only got 2 eligible pg's.  There's a lack of pg's available in my league so this really sucks.

DrRazvi (7 posts)  1/4/2013 4:39 PM

In a 14 team league. Sitting in first place with a relatively easy schedule for the next 3 weeks. Considering picking up the recently dropped MoWill to stash for an eventual playoff run. My team is lacking PGs. Any thoughts?

PG: Kyrie, Curry

SG/SF: Iggy, W. Matthews, Dunnleavy, Kawhi, Korver, Barnes, Salmons

PF/C: DLee, Monroe, Marion, JThompson

mbuser (4328 posts)  1/4/2013 4:47 PM

Seems like good strategy to me.

DrRazvi (7 posts)  1/8/2013 12:28 PM

I dropped Salmons for him, but now they're sayin it was a complete tear and with rehab, the timetable might be longer than expected.  Still a good idea to stash? 

mbuser (4328 posts)  1/8/2013 1:03 PM

Was just about to post the same link: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/blogsjazznotes/55591308-62/williams-thumb-suffered-surgery.html.csp

While Williams has commonly been said to be out a minimum of six weeks, the reality could be much harsher. He will have a pin removed from his thumb after six weeks, which is when "the rehab really starts," he said. "I'm going to fight to get back," Williams said. "I'm going to go by the proper protocol, try to do it the right way and make sure I'm 100 percent when I get back." The lone difference between this injury and the one he suffered in 2008, Williams said, was that this time he suffered a small bone chip in the thumb. The primary date to watch, though, is that six week mark, around the All-Star break, when Williams will be reevaluated.

With this update, there's almost no chance that he's back before two months from now. I'll stop short of saying that it's a good idea to stash him - you are going to have to weigh the possibility of reward potential for your own squad.

mbuser (4328 posts)  2/12/2013 5:26 PM

Bill Oram ‏@tribjazz
#Jazz guard Mo Williams goes to New York today and will have pin removed from right thumb tomorrow morning. Rehab starts immediately.

Going to assume four weeks of rehab for now, which puts his potential return for mid-March. We should get some more specific info from the team before too long.

DrRazvi (7 posts)  2/21/2013 3:14 PM

Does the fact that Utah didnt trade for a PG today bode well for Mo's outlook?

Also since MIL got JJRedick, im thinking Mike Dunleavy's already scant minutes/stats may take a hit (even tho JJ is a different position)

Ive been enjoying Dunleavys 3's and 3% but might it be time to drop Dunleavy and stash MoWill?

My team is playoff bound with hopefully a first round bye.

vnmslsrbms (65 posts)  2/25/2013 8:54 PM

Fantasy playoffs should start a week or two after he's back, so he's a reasonable stash for teams who are solidly in the playoffs and not gunning for first place in a tight race (which I am but I picked him up anyway since I drafted him and don't want to see him helping other teams).  With a first round bye he's a pretty good stash.  The bucks do have a pretty good playoff schedule though, better than the jazz.  

mbuser (4328 posts)  2/25/2013 11:26 PM

If he's looking at default playoffs (Wks 21-23), then it's 4-4-4 for the Jazz and 4-3-4 for the Bucks.

http://basketballmonster.com/ScheduleGrid.aspx

I'd be in favor of dropping Dunleavy for MoWill.

dasein (615 posts)  2/25/2013 11:26 PM

jazz go 4-4-4 with standard schedule. You don't get better than that. 

chenkyte (25 posts)  2/26/2013 12:38 AM

Plz rank them for the regular playoff (week21-23)... Love, MoWill, Bynum

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  2/26/2013 1:27 AM

The big Mo Will news today is he still has pain in his thumb. This is not a good thing. While it may or may not affect his very slow return, it is sure not a good sign. U can stash him for now but having a Plan B may be advisable.

ferris (307 posts)  2/26/2013 1:52 AM

i'm concerned about his shooting efficiency when he does get back

mbuser (4328 posts)  2/26/2013 3:24 PM

Regarding a Plan B, obviously there are no guarantees here. But the chance to roster a starting PG with a 4-4-4 playoff schedule at little-to-no cost is too good to pass up. You can always make another move once the playoffs start.

hsahardid (50 posts)  2/26/2013 5:00 PM

Matt,

How about in the case where I already have 4 pgs?

Most of my players are projected pretty well for the playoffs and I don't want to risk losing a player like Calderon for Mo Williams when I'm not sure how Mo Williams will perform when he returns or if he plays all 12 games.

I don't want to give up on my players (elton brand) that provide blocks either so would Tony Allen be worth dropping for Mo Williams or should I just stand pat?

12 Teams 13 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
	1	8	0.39	-0.66	Aldridge, LaMarcus		POR	F	25		39.0	21.9	0.0	9.6	2.7	0.8	1.2	0.501	18.0	0.792	4.9	1.7	1.73	-1.10	1.48	-0.26	-0.72	0.81	1.04	0.20	0.35
	1	10	0.32	-2.07	George, Paul		IND	F	25		38.0	17.8	2.1	7.7	4.2	1.8	0.6	0.424	14.6	0.820	4.1	2.9	0.80	1.39	0.75	0.41	1.75	-0.16	-1.18	0.49	-1.34
	2	15	0.28	0.75	Leonard, Kawhi		SAS	F	24		31.0	11.3	1.4	5.9	1.2	1.9	0.4	0.500	8.4	0.815	1.8	0.8	-0.70	0.57	0.06	-0.92	1.85	-0.49	0.48	0.20	1.50
	2	17	0.28	-1.57	Batum, Nicolas		POR	F	25		39.0	16.1	2.3	5.9	5.5	1.3	1.1	0.428	12.6	0.865	3.5	3.1	0.41	1.63	0.08	0.99	0.58	0.55	-0.93	0.87	-1.67
	3	25	0.22	0.08	Korver, Kyle		ATL	F	26		34.0	12.2	2.9	4.5	2.5	1.0	0.5	0.465	8.8	0.851	1.3	1.0	-0.50	2.29	-0.44	-0.37	-0.08	-0.34	-0.07	0.28	1.23
	4	43	0.11	0.86	Calderon, Jose		DET	G	20		32.0	12.8	2.0	2.7	8.3	0.9	0.1	0.474	10.2	0.890	1.2	2.0	-0.36	1.24	-1.14	2.20	-0.42	-1.00	0.10	0.40	-0.03
	5	49	0.09	-0.63	Matthews, Wesley		POR	G	25		37.0	15.4	2.4	3.0	3.0	1.4	0.3	0.433	12.2	0.859	2.8	1.8	0.23	1.68	-1.02	-0.14	0.77	-0.68	-0.81	0.65	0.11
	5	60	0.04	0.29	Pekovic, Nikola		MIN	C	28		34.0	18.1	0.0	10.0	0.8	0.7	0.9	0.523	13.0	0.737	6.1	1.8	0.87	-1.10	1.62	-1.08	-0.94	0.26	1.27	-0.70	0.12
	6	66	0.02	-0.71	Hill, George		IND	G	25		35.0	13.6	1.6	3.7	4.9	0.9	0.3	0.472	10.5	0.813	2.5	1.7	-0.17	0.83	-0.75	0.70	-0.35	-0.63	0.06	0.26	0.25
	6	72	-0.01	-0.84	Green, Jeff		BOS	F	24		31.0	13.7	0.9	4.3	1.7	0.8	1.3	0.487	9.6	0.825	4.2	1.8	-0.14	0.01	-0.52	-0.69	-0.68	0.89	0.32	0.56	0.17
	7	75	-0.02	0.81	Nelson, Jameer		ORL	G	23		34.0	14.2	2.3	3.7	7.3	1.2	0.2	0.402	13.1	0.879	1.6	2.6	-0.03	1.58	-0.76	1.76	0.24	-0.93	-1.60	0.46	-0.86
	9	103	-0.13	1.69	Brand, Elton		DAL	C	26		22.0	8.3	0.0	6.5	0.9	0.6	1.3	0.502	7.3	0.767	1.2	0.7	-1.40	-1.10	0.32	-1.07	-1.05	0.97	0.43	-0.02	1.74
	10	112	-0.16	1.66	Allen, Tony		MEM	G	24		29.0	10.0	0.1	4.5	1.6	1.8	0.5	0.470	8.6	0.756	2.4	1.5	-0.99	-0.96	-0.46	-0.76	1.67	-0.34	0.01	-0.14	0.55
Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
			1.45	-0.04	Avg Stats/Total Values				320		33.5	14.3	1.4	5.6	3.3	1.2	0.7	0.467	11.3	0.808	2.9	1.8	-0.08	6.62	-0.27	0.10	2.44	-0.77	-0.62	3.36	2.29
			1.45	-0.04	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				320		33.5	14.3	1.4	5.6	3.3	1.2	0.7	0.467	11.3	0.808	2.9	1.8	-0.08	6.62	-0.27	0.10	2.44	-0.77	-0.62	3.36	2.29

mbuser (4328 posts)  2/26/2013 5:16 PM

Clearly you aren't dropping Calderon. That's not even a consideration. You are already strong in most areas that MoWill is strong, so it's not a no-brainer. Compare your Team Analysis with Allen and with MoWill and see which you feel more comfortable with.

# 28591 (3 posts)  2/27/2013 12:59 AM

According to @austinhorton in his timeline.

"He worked out today at practice & got a little contact today. Maybe another week, maybe, when he feels ready." Sidney Lowe on Mo Williams.

MoWill looks closer and closer to a return.

vnmslsrbms (65 posts)  2/27/2013 3:19 AM

That's good news.  Hope he comes back sooner.  As long as he doesn't pull a Kevin Love and comes back firing bricks.

mafix (100 posts)  2/28/2013 1:05 AM

who would you guys drop (if any) for mowill?

12 Teams 13 Per Team $200 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
	1	6	0.41	-2.22	Anthony, Carmelo		NYK	SF/PF	26		38.0	28.1	2.6	6.7	3.0	0.9	0.5	0.444	22.2	0.830	7.1	2.6	3.15	1.93	0.36	-0.15	-0.28	-0.41	-1.01	1.05	-0.98
	2	19	0.26	-2.16	Lawson, Ty		DEN	PG	23		36.0	19.3	1.3	2.9	7.4	1.6	0.1	0.485	14.4	0.816	4.9	2.7	1.13	0.43	-1.04	1.81	1.18	-1.01	0.41	0.53	-1.06
	2	24	0.23	0.27	Ibaka, Serge		OKC	C/PF	24		31.0	12.4	0.2	7.4	0.7	0.3	3.2	0.551	9.5	0.759	2.4	1.7	-0.43	-0.86	0.64	-1.14	-1.65	3.92	1.39	-0.11	0.28
	4	38	0.15	0.91	Vucevic, Nikola		ORL	C/PF	23		35.0	13.5	0.0	12.4	1.8	0.6	1.1	0.531	11.7	0.662	1.6	1.6	-0.19	-1.10	2.53	-0.63	-1.11	0.62	1.29	-0.52	0.51
	4	40	0.13	0.27	Young, Thaddeus		PHI	SF/PF	26		35.0	15.0	0.0	7.3	1.7	1.5	0.9	0.523	13.0	0.572	2.5	1.2	0.17	-1.10	0.60	-0.68	1.06	0.26	1.25	-1.42	1.06
	4	41	0.11	-0.11	Teague, Jeff		ATL	PG	25		35.0	16.1	1.4	2.3	7.5	1.5	0.4	0.467	12.5	0.865	3.5	3.1	0.41	0.52	-1.25	1.85	0.86	-0.55	-0.05	0.87	-1.63
	4	48	0.09	-0.60	Matthews, Wesley		POR	SG/SF	24		37.0	15.4	2.4	3.0	3.0	1.4	0.3	0.433	12.2	0.859	2.8	1.8	0.24	1.67	-1.01	-0.13	0.77	-0.68	-0.80	0.65	0.11
	5	57	0.06	-2.34	Jennings, Brandon		MIL	PG	25		35.0	19.0	2.1	3.1	5.8	1.7	0.2	0.403	16.5	0.809	4.5	2.7	1.07	1.33	-0.96	1.12	1.52	-0.92	-1.95	0.40	-1.09
	5	60	0.04	-0.15	Pekovic, Nikola		MIN	C	27		34.1	18.2	0.0	10.0	0.9	0.7	0.9	0.523	13.1	0.737	6.1	1.8	0.88	-1.10	1.63	-1.07	-0.93	0.27	1.26	-0.70	0.11
	6	62	0.03	-1.40	Mayo, OJ		DAL	SG	24		36.0	16.3	1.7	3.7	4.6	1.4	0.3	0.454	13.1	0.841	3.3	2.8	0.46	0.89	-0.74	0.58	0.73	-0.69	-0.35	0.59	-1.20
	6	63	0.03	0.82	Splitter, Tiago		SAS	C	22		28.4	11.7	0.0	7.0	1.5	1.0	1.0	0.568	7.5	0.759	4.1	1.3	-0.60	-1.10	0.50	-0.79	-0.20	0.41	1.32	-0.21	0.91
	6	66	0.02	-0.90	Hill, George		IND	PG/SG	24		35.0	13.6	1.6	3.7	4.9	0.9	0.3	0.472	10.5	0.813	2.5	1.7	-0.16	0.83	-0.75	0.70	-0.34	-0.62	0.06	0.26	0.24
	10	114	-0.17	-0.28	Gortat, Marcin		PHO	C	23		28.0	10.4	0.0	7.7	1.1	0.6	1.3	0.540	8.3	0.668	2.1	1.6	-0.90	-1.10	0.75	-0.97	-1.11	0.88	1.05	-0.63	0.51
Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
			1.43	-0.62	Avg Stats/Total Values				316		34.2	16.2	1.0	6.0	3.4	1.1	0.8	0.482	12.8	0.782	3.7	2.1	5.65	1.41	1.29	0.47	0.60	1.36	3.71	0.72	-2.36
			1.08	-0.35	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				241		34.0	15.4	1.0	6.1	3.0	1.0	0.9	0.487	12.2	0.783	3.2	2.0	2.52	0.86	1.47	-1.22	-1.06	2.99	3.95	0.59	-0.35

brandonislegend (115 posts)  3/4/2013 2:03 AM

Anyone heard any updates from this guy? 

mbuser (4328 posts)  3/4/2013 3:01 AM

Hasn't been practicing with contact yet, but then there's this, from Saturday:

Williams has not played since Dec. 22, when he tore a ligament in his right thumb against the Heat in Miami. He had two pins removed from the thumb on Feb. 13 in New York City, and has been gradually increasing his role in team practices. He said this week he hopes to play on the team’s upcoming four-game road trip to Milwaukee, Cleveland, Chicago and New York.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/jazz/55936845-87/hayward-williams-kanter-lot.html.csp

That four-game trip is this current week (ends Saturday), so I'm not sure how realistic it is.

tonika_zr (991 posts)  3/4/2013 3:21 AM

Only player from Bogut,Bynum,Granger,Rose group which I add it and try to get something from it, 3 weeks until semis in fantasy postseason, no need to hurry Mo (but for Jazz is just oposite, they have 4 awfull spare parts at PG spot).

mbuser (4328 posts)  3/4/2013 12:33 PM

David Locke ‏@Lockedonsports
Tyrone Corbin says Mo Williams is getting better and team will have two practices on trip to test thumb.

mbuser (4328 posts)  3/6/2013 3:53 PM

He's back:

Utah Jazz ‏@utahjazz
.@mowilliams is expected to be back in the lineup tonight! http://instagr.am/p/Wh_kyVusmh/  #UTAatCLE

hsahardid (50 posts)  3/6/2013 5:08 PM

During my league's playoffs (21-23), mo will is projected higher than george hill and jose calderon when ease is applied and because he plays more games.  If Mo Will performs up to expectations, are george hill or jose calderon worth dropping for him?

My instinct tells me Mo Will is more inefficient (high to's) than both of those players and you shouldn't give up an efficient pg for an inefficient pg when you are not punting.  In addition, he's ranked worse if you just look at per game value.

Would you agree Matt?

12 Teams 13 Per Team [9 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% to]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
	1	8	0.36	-1.84	George, Paul		IND	F	22		39.1	18.3	2.2	7.9	4.3	1.9	0.7	0.424	15.0	0.820	4.2	3.0	0.91	1.38	0.91	0.46	1.86	-0.09	-1.20	0.49	-1.44
	2	17	0.28	0.97	Leonard, Kawhi		SAS	F	21		32.0	13.3	1.1	5.8	1.6	1.7	0.5	0.508	9.3	0.815	3.4	1.0	-0.25	0.08	0.10	-0.75	1.38	-0.27	0.68	0.34	1.24
	2	22	0.26	-0.55	Aldridge, LaMarcus		POR	F	23		38.0	21.4	0.0	9.0	2.9	0.7	1.2	0.490	17.9	0.781	4.8	1.8	1.60	-1.16	1.29	-0.19	-0.77	0.80	0.72	-0.07	0.15
	2	24	0.26	-1.53	Batum, Nicolas		POR	F	22		38.0	15.7	2.3	5.8	5.4	1.3	1.1	0.428	12.2	0.865	3.4	3.1	0.30	1.47	0.09	0.91	0.49	0.55	-0.89	0.92	-1.54
	3	27	0.22	0.02	Korver, Kyle		ATL	F	22		34.0	12.2	2.9	4.5	2.5	1.0	0.5	0.465	8.8	0.851	1.3	1.0	-0.51	2.18	-0.36	-0.36	-0.09	-0.29	-0.06	0.30	1.16
	4	43	0.11	1.05	Calderon, Jose		DET	G	17		32.0	12.8	2.0	2.7	8.3	0.9	0.1	0.474	10.2	0.890	1.2	2.0	-0.36	1.15	-1.06	2.16	-0.43	-0.94	0.12	0.44	-0.06
	5	49	0.07	-0.41	Matthews, Wesley		POR	G	23		36.0	14.9	2.3	2.9	2.9	1.4	0.3	0.433	11.9	0.859	2.7	1.8	0.13	1.51	-0.97	-0.17	0.68	-0.64	-0.77	0.68	0.14
	6	63	0.02	0.90	Nelson, Jameer		ORL	G	20		35.0	14.6	2.3	3.8	7.5	1.2	0.2	0.402	13.5	0.879	1.6	2.6	0.06	1.56	-0.64	1.82	0.30	-0.87	-1.64	0.51	-0.96
	6	68	-0.01	-0.80	Green, Jeff		BOS	F	22		31.0	13.7	0.9	4.3	1.7	0.8	1.3	0.487	9.6	0.825	4.2	1.8	-0.15	-0.06	-0.45	-0.68	-0.69	0.92	0.33	0.56	0.13
	6	69	-0.01	-0.87	Hill, George		IND	G	21		34.0	13.2	1.6	3.6	4.7	0.9	0.3	0.472	10.2	0.813	2.4	1.7	-0.26	0.69	-0.72	0.63	-0.42	-0.59	0.07	0.23	0.28
	6	72	-0.03	0.60	Harris, Tobias		ORL	F	20		30.0	13.8	0.7	6.4	1.3	0.8	0.7	0.481	11.0	0.828	3.1	1.5	-0.13	-0.39	0.34	-0.84	-0.56	0.07	0.27	0.44	0.54
	7	78	-0.05	-0.13	Pekovic, Nikola		MIN	C	21		32.0	17.1	0.0	9.4	0.8	0.6	0.8	0.523	12.3	0.737	5.8	1.7	0.62	-1.16	1.46	-1.08	-1.04	0.22	1.23	-0.94	0.23
	9	103	-0.13	1.38	Brand, Elton		DAL	C	22		24.0	9.2	0.0	7.1	0.9	0.7	1.5	0.502	8.0	0.660	1.8	0.8	-1.18	-1.16	0.58	-1.02	-0.94	1.30	0.49	-0.74	1.48
Own	Round	Rank	Value	ValueC	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	toV
			1.38	-0.13	Avg Stats/Total Values				276		33.5	14.7	1.4	5.7	3.3	1.1	0.7	0.466	11.6	0.808	3.1	1.8	0.97	5.96	0.84	0.38	-0.12	0.49	-0.68	3.13	1.40
			1.38	-0.13	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				276		33.5	14.7	1.4	5.7	3.3	1.1	0.7	0.466	11.6	0.808	3.1	1.8	0.97	5.96	0.84	0.38	-0.12	0.49	-0.68	3.13	1.40

mbuser (4328 posts)  3/6/2013 5:25 PM

Don't you think dropping Elton Brand would be a better idea?

DMWave (171 posts)  3/6/2013 5:37 PM

I would agree Brand is the player to drop but it seems you already have a massive excess of 3PM already. I'm guessing you win that fairly easily as is.

I can't imagine a drop of Calderon in 12x13 right now.

hsahardid (50 posts)  3/6/2013 6:36 PM

If I drop Brand, I'm throwing in the towel on blocks altogether and I could run into days where I can't don't have enough c's to fill the c slot.

ZeroStatic (164 posts)  3/6/2013 6:38 PM

Is that a problem? This is H2H, 5 cats is just as good as 9 cats when it comes to playoffs.

hsahardid (50 posts)  3/6/2013 6:59 PM

good point.  if i'm never winning in blocks, no point trying to shore it up.