castorius (78 posts)  12/26/2012 12:17 PM

Andray Blatche for Kyle Korver

I have been shopping Kyle Korver in my league because I have an excess of 3 pointers (I also have Ryan Anderson, Kyrie Irving, and Byron Mullens).

For my team, what do you think about this deal?  Something I noticed was; Korver is doing better now in terms of current performance value stats (Korver: -0.17 vs Blatche: -0.30).  But Blatche has more value in Remaining Projections (Korver: -0.30 vs Blatche: -0.14).  

It seems like Blatche's remaining projection stats are a little high.  Are we really expecting him to do that well?  For what reason?  Also Korver gets more minutes per game.  

I don't mind parting with Korver, but does Blatche really do enough for me?  And seeing as I picked up Byron Mullens recently as my backup bench player, do I really need Blatche's production?  What do you guys think?   

12 Teams 14 Per Team $200 Per Team [11 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% dr fta ato]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	ato	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	ftaV	atoV
	1	12	0.56	Irving, Kyrie		CLE	PG	51		36.0	23.4	2.0	4.0	6.2	1.3	0.3	0.465	18.3	0.870	5.1	3.4	1.59	3.9	2.19	1.38	-0.58	1.36	0.66	-0.62	0.00	1.31	-0.43	1.00	-0.13
	2	13	0.53	Lee, David		GSW	PF/C	52		38.0	19.8	0.0	11.1	3.5	1.1	0.3	0.515	15.8	0.795	4.4	8.0	1.27	2.7	1.34	-1.09	2.10	0.14	0.07	-0.60	1.49	0.24	2.22	0.60	-0.64
	2	17	0.49	Williams, Deron		BKN	PG	51		37.0	17.9	1.9	3.4	8.8	1.0	0.4	0.409	14.5	0.825	5.1	2.9	3.07	2.9	0.89	1.19	-0.83	2.54	0.05	-0.45	-1.52	0.69	-0.73	0.98	2.55
	4	42	0.23	West, David		IND	PF	50		34.0	18.1	0.0	8.2	2.8	0.8	0.8	0.501	15.0	0.757	4.1	6.2	1.50	1.9	0.94	-1.09	1.02	-0.15	-0.64	0.25	1.02	-0.20	1.18	0.38	-0.16
	4	43	0.23	Lin, Jeremy		HOU	PG	52		34.0	13.1	0.9	4.0	6.6	1.8	0.5	0.444	11.1	0.825	2.8	3.4	2.33	2.8	-0.25	-0.04	-0.61	1.55	1.84	-0.35	-0.44	0.38	-0.42	-0.37	1.22
	4	44	0.22	Iguodala, Andre		DEN	SG/SF	50		35.0	14.5	1.3	6.0	4.6	1.6	0.8	0.459	11.9	0.690	3.3	4.9	1.74	2.6	0.09	0.44	0.17	0.63	1.27	0.12	-0.12	-0.77	0.46	-0.05	0.16
	6	70	0.05	Anderson, Ryan		NOR	PF/C	52		32.0	16.5	2.9	7.6	1.3	0.7	0.4	0.446	13.9	0.875	1.4	5.1	1.25	1.1	0.55	2.40	0.76	-0.83	-0.75	-0.54	-0.49	0.37	0.54	-1.20	-0.26
	9	98	-0.13	Leonard, Kawhi		SAS	SG/SF	52		28.0	10.3	1.0	5.8	1.2	1.7	0.3	0.494	8.0	0.815	1.8	4.5	0.94	1.3	-0.90	0.09	0.07	-0.87	1.55	-0.61	0.44	0.19	0.20	-0.98	-0.57
	10	109	-0.21	Stuckey, Rodney		DET	PG/SG	49		29.0	12.6	0.7	3.1	4.2	0.8	0.3	0.406	10.5	0.845	4.1	2.5	2.60	1.6	-0.36	-0.29	-0.93	0.46	-0.53	-0.69	-1.15	0.77	-0.95	0.39	0.96
	10	110	-0.21	Mullens, Byron		CHA	PF/C	41		32.0	12.4	1.5	7.5	1.4	0.8	0.9	0.385	12.1	0.759	2.2	5.8	0.94	1.5	-0.40	0.69	0.73	-0.79	-0.54	0.31	-1.80	-0.09	0.94	-0.73	-0.66
	10	115	-0.26	Crawford, Jamal		LAC	PG/SG	51		27.4	15.4	1.7	1.7	2.1	1.0	0.2	0.423	12.0	0.920	3.8	1.4	1.23	1.7	0.29	0.98	-1.49	-0.50	-0.09	-0.86	-0.92	1.50	-1.56	0.24	-0.43
	10	118	-0.27	Hickson, JJ		POR	PF/C	55		28.0	11.5	0.0	9.4	0.9	0.5	0.7	0.522	9.1	0.643	3.1	5.7	0.52	1.6	-0.62	-1.09	1.47	-1.04	-1.15	0.01	0.97	-1.10	0.93	-0.19	-1.13
	11	124	-0.30	Korver, Kyle		ATL	SG/SF	55		30.0	10.7	2.5	3.7	1.7	0.8	0.4	0.436	8.3	0.850	1.2	3.2	1.54	1.1	-0.80	1.90	-0.70	-0.68	-0.46	-0.44	-0.44	0.24	-0.57	-1.33	-0.07
	14	161	-0.46	Landry, Carl		GSW	SF/PF	51		22.4	11.1	0.0	5.6	0.7	0.3	0.4	0.535	7.5	0.805	3.8	3.2	0.48	1.4	-0.72	-1.09	0.01	-1.12	-1.71	-0.41	0.99	0.30	-0.52	0.20	-1.03
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	ato	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	ftaV	atoV
			0.45	Avg Stats/Total Values				51		31.6	14.8	1.2	5.8	3.3	1.0	0.5	0.460	12.0	0.806	3.3	4.3	1.63	2.0	2.23	4.35	1.19	0.69	-0.43	-4.87	-2.03	3.84	1.31	-1.04	-0.25
			0.45	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				51		31.6	14.8	1.2	5.8	3.3	1.0	0.5	0.460	12.0	0.806	3.3	4.3	1.63	2.0	2.23	4.35	1.19	0.69	-0.43	-4.87	-2.03	3.84	1.31	-1.04	-0.25

castorius (78 posts)  12/26/2012 12:24 PM

Alternately, I could give him a counter offer to try to pry Jarrett Jack off of him. (not sure if he'd bite)

Here is his team (the guy I'm trading with):

12 Teams 14 Per Team $200 Per Team [11 Active = pts 3 reb ast stl blk fg% ft% dr fta ato]

Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	ato	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	ftaV	atoV
	1	4	0.90	Paul, Chris		LAC	PG	53		33.1	16.7	1.1	3.6	8.7	2.4	0.1	0.475	12.0	0.875	4.9	3.0	4.13	2.1	0.61	0.20	-0.76	2.50	3.27	-1.00	0.23	1.33	-0.64	0.88	3.27
	2	15	0.52	Anthony, Carmelo		NYK	SF/PF	50		35.0	26.5	2.2	6.2	2.0	1.1	0.5	0.454	20.0	0.815	7.6	4.6	0.74	2.8	2.92	1.63	0.25	-0.51	0.11	-0.33	-0.39	0.82	0.27	2.46	-1.56
	2	23	0.38	Horford, Al		ATL	PF/C	55		36.0	16.3	0.0	10.0	3.1	0.8	1.0	0.549	12.8	0.725	3.1	7.1	1.72	1.8	0.51	-1.09	1.69	-0.03	-0.54	0.49	2.01	-0.42	1.71	-0.20	0.09
	5	57	0.12	Nash, Steve		LAL	PG	50		32.0	11.4	1.3	3.0	9.0	0.6	0.1	0.500	8.7	0.917	1.6	2.6	3.01	3.0	-0.64	0.43	-0.98	2.61	-0.98	-0.89	0.58	0.60	-0.86	-1.09	2.54
	6	65	0.07	Chandler, Tyson		NYK	C	50		30.1	12.0	0.0	9.0	0.8	0.7	1.0	0.695	6.5	0.695	4.2	5.2	0.70	1.1	-0.51	-1.09	1.33	-1.07	-0.67	0.49	2.79	-0.91	0.64	0.47	-0.66
	7	82	0.00	DeRozan, DeMar		TOR	SG/SF	53		37.0	18.3	0.4	4.5	2.3	1.1	0.4	0.446	15.2	0.815	5.3	3.9	1.22	1.8	0.98	-0.56	-0.40	-0.41	0.25	-0.45	-0.53	0.57	-0.13	1.12	-0.48
	8	87	-0.07	Asik, Omer		HOU	C	54		30.0	10.9	0.0	10.8	1.2	0.8	1.4	0.515	7.8	0.575	5.0	7.7	0.52	2.3	-0.77	-1.09	2.01	-0.90	-0.56	1.09	0.73	-2.72	2.06	0.96	-1.57
	9	99	-0.14	Blatche, Andray		BKN	PF/C	49		26.1	13.1	0.0	6.7	1.5	1.2	0.7	0.497	10.5	0.735	3.7	4.2	0.95	1.6	-0.23	-1.09	0.44	-0.73	0.32	0.09	0.63	-0.40	0.02	0.15	-0.69
	9	103	-0.17	Jack, Jarrett		GSW	PG/SG	53		27.0	11.6	1.0	3.2	4.8	0.8	0.1	0.476	9.5	0.873	1.9	2.9	2.67	1.8	-0.58	0.13	-0.92	0.73	-0.44	-0.98	0.19	0.50	-0.72	-0.90	1.15
	12	142	-0.38	Ilyasova, Ersan		MIL	PF	54		23.0	10.0	0.7	5.7	1.4	0.8	0.5	0.441	8.8	0.775	2.0	4.0	1.57	0.9	-0.97	-0.20	0.04	-0.80	-0.62	-0.29	-0.39	0.00	-0.09	-0.83	-0.04
	14	157	-0.45	Allen, Tony		MEM	SG/SF	51		25.0	8.8	0.1	3.3	0.8	1.8	0.5	0.452	7.4	0.785	2.5	2.5	0.63	1.3	-1.25	-0.96	-0.85	-1.05	1.86	-0.33	-0.18	0.07	-0.94	-0.52	-0.83
	17	196	-0.64	Battier, Shane		MIA	SG/SF	56		25.0	6.3	1.5	2.3	1.2	0.8	0.7	0.414	5.2	0.685	0.6	1.9	2.13	0.6	-1.85	0.78	-1.23	-0.90	-0.46	0.00	-0.49	-0.15	-1.32	-1.65	0.17
	18	210	-0.71	Neal, Gary		SAS	PG/SG	49		20.0	9.3	1.3	2.1	1.8	0.4	0.0	0.443	8.0	0.830	1.1	1.8	1.74	1.1	-1.14	0.50	-1.34	-0.60	-1.39	-1.05	-0.32	0.16	-1.33	-1.36	0.07
	19	224	-0.77	Butler, Caron		LAC	SF	48		22.0	8.5	1.2	2.9	0.9	0.6	0.1	0.415	7.9	0.810	0.9	2.3	1.07	0.9	-1.32	0.39	-1.03	-1.01	-0.99	-1.01	-0.72	0.09	-1.09	-1.46	-0.30
Own	Round	Rank	Value	Name	Injury	Team	Pos	g	News	min/g	pts/g	3/g	reb/g	ast/g	stl/g	blk/g	fg%	fga/g	ft%	fta/g	dr/g	ato	to/g	ptsV	3V	rebV	astV	stlV	blkV	fg%V	ft%V	drV	ftaV	atoV
			-1.35	Avg Stats/Total Values				52		28.7	12.8	0.8	5.2	2.8	1.0	0.5	0.481	10.0	0.770	3.2	3.8	1.73	1.6	-4.25	-2.04	-1.74	-2.18	-0.84	-4.17	4.11	-0.45	-2.41	-1.97	1.10
			-1.35	Avg Stats/Total Values (active)				52		28.7	12.8	0.8	5.2	2.8	1.0	0.5	0.481	10.0	0.770	3.2	3.8	1.73	1.6	-4.25	-2.04	-1.74	-2.18	-0.84	-4.17	4.11	-0.45	-2.41	-1.97	1.10

richardpwnsner (53 posts)  12/26/2012 12:25 PM

 Castorious, consider revising that first sentence.

mbuser (4378 posts)  12/26/2012 12:51 PM

I question the Mullens add, given that you are overloaded with 3PM, are punting BLK(?), and he tanks your FG%. But I'm in favor of trading Korver in general, given that he's a single-category contributor in your 11-category league. Blatche's projections are up because his minutes are expected to go up.

castorius (78 posts)  12/26/2012 1:34 PM

Yes, mbuser I'm punting blocks.  I added Mullens because he was the best rebounder left on the waiver wire, and on top of that, he's the only plus rebounder on the waiver wire who's at least competent in other stats like PTS.  All that's left in the waiver wire are Zaza Pachulia, Jason Maxiell types.  Byron Mullens provided the rebounds along with other stats that made him attractive to pick up.

Would I be better off seeing if I could get Jarrett Jack for Korver to help out my assists and A/T ratio?  Or do you think I would be better off getting Blatche?

twilo28 (212 posts)  12/26/2012 6:22 PM

Kyle Korver is ranked #40 by averages on Yahoo! so before you try to dump him, realize that a guy you picked up off the wire is giving you 4th rd value. Having A/T as a category significantly changes a player's value, so Jack would get a huge bump whether or not his owner realizes it. 

castorius (78 posts)  12/30/2012 4:55 PM

Nah, he wouldn't part with Jack, apparently he views him as something more than a waiver wire player - I do too, but  I don't think he's that far off, but then again owners have a tendency to overvalue their own players.

Luckily, I passed on the Blatche deal, as Korver's been playing amazing the past few games (all-around stats) and Blatche has stumbled since the coaching change in Brooklyn - the owner I was trading with subsequently dropped Blatche yesterday :) So it was a good hold.