findingwaldo (13 posts)  12/26/2012 5:06 PM

Does Eric Gordon coming back affect Vasquez's value?

Songlo11 (53 posts)  12/26/2012 7:54 PM

No it will affect Austin Rivers value more

tonika_zr (992 posts)  12/26/2012 9:49 PM

Fully right Song11

mtofell (18 posts)  12/27/2012 12:25 AM

Really, the best thing helping his value now is the fact that I dropped him last week... since then I he's been on fire. 

mbuser (4339 posts)  12/27/2012 12:39 AM

Maybe Vasquez gets a few more clean looks from three? Otherwise he should stay fairly stable.

ZeroStatic (166 posts)  12/27/2012 1:29 AM

Eric Gordon's shooting percentage might help Vasquez more than Rivers? More assists converted?

mbuser (4339 posts)  12/27/2012 3:40 AM

Rivers' game is very ISO-heavy and his spot-up numbers actually aren't terrible, so I don't see much impact there.

KingKobe (157 posts)  12/27/2012 6:51 AM

You really don't think it will affect Vasquez at all?

Gordon is a very ball dominant player who will be taking the ball out of Vasquez's hands a lot of the time. A lot of the offense will be initiated by him (even if he doesn't bring the ball up himself).

While I still like Vasquez you have to think he takes at least a slight hit.

As for Rivers' value, you can't hurt what doesn't exist

mbuser (4339 posts)  12/27/2012 12:00 PM

Vasquez's per-game rank on the season is 148, and that's what I don't see changing much: his fantasy impact. Will Gordon take the ball out of his hands a bit? Yes. Could he get more looks from three playing off the ball? Yes. Should it help Vasquez that they are replacing a waste of possessions (Rivers) with actual production? Yes. Do I see it all essentially being a wash when it's said and done? Yes.

Cap. (533 posts)  12/27/2012 1:41 PM

sidenote, filter out blocks and turnovers, and vasquez clocks in a 60 overall right now.  that is all.

mbuser (4339 posts)  12/27/2012 2:05 PM

Yeah, that big bright green (AST) definitely works in his favor when you start eliminating his worst cats. Andre Drummond is 35th when you eliminate FT% and PTS. Byron Mullens is 52nd when you remove FG% and AST.

Cap. (533 posts)  12/27/2012 2:17 PM

I like eliminating one or two negatives for lesser value players just to see how they fit on my team.  it's really a dwight howard routine to a much lesser extent.  i mean, if leaving out turnovers alone drops vasquez's rank from 148 to 83 then i really think he has more value than is perceived.

nolagoblue (85 posts)  12/27/2012 2:50 PM

Hornets fan here, and I think Vasquez's assists will definitely go down. Buse is right that he could get better looks from 3, and maybe it offsets his lower assists, but I think Gordon will definitly impact Vasquez's #'s. I'm not a big fan of Grevis' real life game, and personally I think he's one of the 2 worst starting PG (not talking about injury replacements and would prob be the worst if Keith Smart wasn't such an idiot) in the league but his assist #'s have been ridiculous this year. Plus, Monty is convinced that Rivers will be a PG, so I expect to see alot of Rivers/Gordon down the stretch so his min could begin to trend lower once Gordon starts playing full time. But what are the odds of that?