# 28675 (18 posts)  3/15/2013 2:28 PM

How bad is this guy on D? I've read a lot about it, but can't find any definitive information that he manages to allow above-average performances to opponents he's guarding.

His floor time rating on 82games.com is 1.04 allowed, but that's a team metric, not his opposing player position.

The Bulls this year appear to be pretty good against opposing PG. So either Hinrich is really masterful on D, or... I don't know.

mbuser (4316 posts)  3/15/2013 3:14 PM

Hinrich has historically been a good defender, no question. On/Off is a good way to look at this season: Bulls allow +4.4 points per 100 possessions when he's off so far.

http://www.82games.com/1213/12CHI1.HTM#onoff
http://www.nba.com/advancedstats/team-vs-player.html#Bulls-vs-Nate-Robinson|1610612741,101126;year=201213;season=r

Being on a great defensive team can help an individual player, but any success against PG is more in spite of Nate Rob than because of it.

Hailfire4 (510 posts)  3/15/2013 3:38 PM

The Bull deliberate offense is the main reason their point totals for and against is low. Wanna know why the Bulls play so many 74-68 games? It is because they rebound well and milk the 24 second clock. Limiting posessions will always equate to lower scores.

# 28675 (18 posts)  3/15/2013 5:29 PM

Money. Thanks for showing me how to use that nba.com advanced stats thing. I looked at it before I posted and shrugged.

mbuser (4316 posts)  3/16/2013 11:59 AM

Guys talked. They came out to play. Especially Robinson, who provided a defensive effort the likes of which we’ve never seen from him. And against Curry, who scored 54 points on the Knicks this season in Madison Square Garden and is eighth in the league in scoring.

“The one thing that stood out, Nate was really into the ball,” said Thibodeau in something I’ve never heard from him all season. “I thought his ball pressure was very good. We’ve got to do that all the time.”

That’s where Hinrich is missed the most. Robinson can be a heck of a scorer and is one of the more athletic players on the team, exciting and enthusiastic. But ball pressure on the perimeter is one of the keys to the Bulls locking up the opponent. Without Hinrich the Bulls generally don’t have it. On Friday, Robinson showed if he wants to he can, and he probably heard plenty about his game in Sacramento.

“We had a long talk about things that needed to be addressed as a team,” Robinson said without elaborating. “Then move forward. Coach said we need to play like that every night. Go on the attack for as long as we can.”

http://blogs.bulls.com/2013/03/bulls-strike-gold-against-the-warriors/