Evan Fournier - ORL - G

Its hard to be so terrible playing 35mpg.

Fournier (up) or Middleton (down) ROS?

Projections show I should be dropping this guy for like Garret Temple, Iggy, Bebe, or E'Twaun Moore. Obviously I'm not going to, but is that really the projections / V values working right?

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Evan Fournier (up) or Markieff Morris (down) ROS

He shot 38% and had 6 TOs. Those are big negatives when you take that many shots.

In the Game Log stats particularly, how is the Value calculated? Fournier had a good game but his value was -0.14. Granted he played 43 mins and shot 38%, but whats the science/formula behind the calculation?

Fournier looking like Top 60 Fournier again.

ganggreen89 -- The last report that came out said that Fournier's return is not imminent. I'd guess that means he misses another game or two at least, but it's just a guess. (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/orlando-magic/magic-basketblog/os-sp-orlando-magic-jodie-meeks-0120-story.html)

Warren (up) fournier (down)

What are we guessing for when he'll be back?

UP Fournier - DOWN Gary Harris

UP Fournier - DOWN Rose. Thanx.

We've set him to questionable. The box score last night incorrectly had him playing 11 seconds which cleared the injury.

This guy is injured, but BBM has no injury flag for his status when viewing weekly projections or team analysis. Would recommend maybe a blue flag or orange flag?

Ah cool. thanks!

Just a glitch man, as he received INJ status after the game. They will fix the box score...not a big deal.

Yahoo is telling me he played 11 seconds? WTF?! Any one see this?

NeonChaos -- I agree with @Donnie99 that you might do best by trading Fournier, but in general, yes, in a league with no IL, if you're outside of the playoffs and fighting to climb up the standings, I'd be ready to drop players that look like they're going to miss the entire week. I wouldn't want to outright suggest dropping Fournier without knowing more about your league (how many games out of the playoffs you are, and the size of the league), but I do think you're right in at least considering the possibility that you may have to drop a player of his caliber in order to compete.

No, but try trading him first for a discounted value. He has no timetable so he can return within the road trip or way longer than the road trip

Currently in last place. I am in need of bodies to try and win weeks, and can't afford to wait out more injuries. :( No IL league. Is it desperate of me to drop this guy for someone who will actually play games?

Same injury

Same foot - is it just a heel contusion issue? Or is there something more worrisome?

Lineup shuffle. There is much less usage for him when he plays alongside Vucevic and Payton. Previously he was in the starting lineup with augustin and biyombo who are lower usage players which meant the the ball was in Fourniers hands more

Any reason for the low shot totals last couple games? Anyone watching the games?

interestingly enough, from a game flow POV, looks so much better w/o Vooch around. Ball actually comes back out when it does make its way into/around the paint.

Yes he is, handling it when DJ Augustin is playing

Another homey who's been on fire lately, and third game in a row with 6+ assists. To anyone that watches the Magic: is he handling the ball more now or something?

No, I don't think so. More from the CJs, Watson and Wilcox, Hezonja, and some of the minutes the PG have been playing.

Jodie Meeks minutes gonna have to come from Evan F., correct?

tylerabc -- Fournier is a career 45% FG shooter, and he shot 46.2% FG last season with 49% FG after the all-star break. There is reason to believe he'll rebound. Playing between Payton and Gordon on the wing is likely the reason he's struggled so far this season. If the Magic were sticking with that lineup, there'd be an argument for docking Fournier some in his projection, but since his role just changed, and he'll have better space with Augustin in the starting lineup at PG, I'd expect him to be more efficient going forward.

There's a big difference between his projected Fg% (46.3) and his actual Fg% so far (42.5). Do we actually think it'll get up that high or do the projections need to be adjusted?

After Sunday's game, Vogel said the move of Payton to the bench was to get the ball in Fournier's hands more in the 1Q and to play him with a spot-up PG (Augustin) who can shoot. While there's no guarantee that this situation sticks, Fournier may be in line for more scoring and assists if this new starting lineup leads to wins.

Seems like Vogel is trying to find an offense that creates more spacing (more shooters like DJA) and puts the ball in Fournier's hands more. If the higher usage sticks, could be really good for him.

do you think moving vucevic/payton to the bench helped fournier to rack up more stats and do you forsee coach vogel moving forward with this switch?

I really hope you're wrong haha.

Hate to say it, but no way this guy averages 20 ppg for the season. He doesn't shoot enough and the magic's offense seems to be more of an equal opportunity disaster.

Why not keep both? Do you HAVE to unload one of them? Klay is still 7.2 3PA per game and hitting just 19% so far this season. He should be fine.

Pessimism around Klay I understand but Fournier has every opportunity to succeed

Would you rather keep Klay or Fournier? Obviously very similar players but kinda pessimistic about both of their situations...

I'm heavily invested in him this year in Roto. He'll give you a good diet of 3s, PTs, with no % weaknesses. He just signed a new contract and there should be no reason they don't play him enough. No Oladipo and no threatening backup vying for minutes and he's probably the best shooter on this team.

Could you see Evan making a jump this season? He's look pretty decent in Preseason and if given more minutes could be good? Top 50 ever?