Cody Zeller - CHA - C

crazy how the Hornets are better with him on the floor....very much underrated

Underrated commodity

I've held onto him since the draft in my 12 team league. It's finally paying off.

Zeller (UP) or Richuan Holmes (DOWN) - next two weeks

Zeller (UP) or Noel (DOWN). Gotta drop one to pickup games this week unfortunately.

As long as Jokic is healthy, you gotta go with Cody.

Cody Zeller (UP) or Mason Plumlee (DOWN) - In need of assists, rebounds, defensive stats, FG%

Just need some playoff advice here. 14 team, 1st round and outgamed. Zeller only has 1 more playable game for me (Sat). I could drop him, which I really didn't want to do, and pickup Levert to pick up games on Tues and Thurs, then try to pick Zeller back up or stream someone else for Sat (or bring back Noel off my IR). Sorry to post this here, but kinda time sensitive. Thanks guys. Stream Levert (UP), keep Zeller (DOWN).

I dropped JVal for Zeller last week and now Im debating swapping them again. Zellers ceiling seems pretty low even though he's getting around 30 min a night.

I thought there would be more chatter, including on the daily update, about Cody Seller's dreadful performance. Is it me, or are his projections a little overinflated? Reminds me of Mirotic's hype last year.

Two completely different players. Impossible to give you an answer without knowing team build and or needs.

Cody Zeller (UP) Ryan Anderson (DOWN)

10 Team H2H Pts: Cody Zeller (UP) Tyreke Evans (DOWN)

So, Kaminksy is out for the season. Does this mean higher production for Cody?

Zeller (UP) or Aminu (DOWN)

Zeller (Up) or Richaun Holmes (Down)?

UP: Zeller Down: E Moore

(up) cody zeller (down) bobby portis

(up) alan williams (down) cody zeller

Zeller (UP) Either adams or WCS (DOWN)

After Kaminskys injury... Steven Adams (UP) or Zeller (Down)

Thoughts on him versus drop of Steven Adams who has been fairly sucky lately

zeller (up) Jv (down). Minutes for both are dicey but zeller might have better chance for more minutes?

You guys think he's gonna be a big difference maker ROS? Debating whether I should drop cory joseph for him even though I do need an extra guard since deron got traded. I'm pretty strong on bigs with Whiteside, Adams, Kanter, O'quinn, Cauley-Stein.

@deadmau5whomp down for Oquinn as Long as Willy is hurt, so up for Zeller for the ROS

Zeller (UP) or O'Quinn (DOWN)

@strang221 - I like Zeller over JVal assuming he can stay healthy. I might go Nurkic over JV if you are looking for more blocks and steals, knowing that Nurkic shoots worse FT and higher TOs. Im thinking of dropping JV or Kidd-Ghilcrest for Zeller myself.

Choose two: Zeller, Nurkic, JVal in 9cat. JVs minutes don't seem like they're going up this season...

any word on a mins limit?

yayyyyyy haha

Has there been any update on him over the past two games? I've had him all season but it's crunch time now. Can't hold dead weight.

I love this guy but he is in my DND-list next season He is some sort of my not so lucky charm lol

When you have a bad bruise, it can make you move differently, and if an NBA player is out there trying to compensate for pain in one place by putting more pressure on another part of his body, they can create another injury. It's frustrating that Zeller has been day-to-day for so long, but the report of his injury was (if I remember correctly) that there was significant bruising up and down his leg. It wasn't a minor thing, and he did try to come back and simply couldn't. Maybe one positive thing to consider about the injury is that it shouldn't be an issue going forward once he does return this time.

You cannot possibly equate a bruise to any kind of strain, pull, tear or break. If he is dealing with something else then the team should be upfront about it. A bruise is a pain tolerance thing. I guess I am frustrated because he keeps getting labeled as next game, next game. If he is out for two weeks I get it. I am also frustrated because each time I have grabbed him he has gone down with and injury.

This guy rybing9922 is the epitome of seeing NBA players as only assets/property and forgetting they're real people. I used to be the same way, when I was 13. After trying to play through herniated discs and back spasms for years then finally getting surgery for it, I gained a new respect for guys who play through injury and understand when guys can't.

I'm going to just say it - if there is a bigger puss* out there then this clown, I'd like to know who it is.

Dropped him last night after owning him since a month after the season started. His production as a starter is good, but honestly you can more than make up for it by streaming

Cut him loooooooong time a go a never looked back.

Yeah seriously. I feel like it's gotta be worse than they're letting on. A strain or tear or something.

Geez can't we get more infos than quad soreness ? crazy to miss so much time, the Hornets lost a season because of it...

Aminu(UP) Zeller(DOWN)?

I blame his mother. She didn't make him go to school when he had a tummy ache.

Has this guy been deported? He hasn't played in a month with a quad bruise?

worth holding on to (UP) or move on from him if a FA add comes up after a trade happens (DOWN)

He's becoming Derrick Favors II. Had Favors last year and for a month the dude was a game time decision. Ended up missing something like 15 straight games. I picked him up now for the third time. I'm hurting in rebs this week (this week is a two week period of last week and this one). Playing three games - or so I thought. Maybe I am wrong here, but a bruise isn't a tear, pull or sprain injury. It is a pain tolerance one.

I hear leeches work great...

Dude's been out with a thigh bruise for a month...I appreciate his solid big man stats but I could be streaming with this spot. Really getting tired of this

How is he still out? What a joke.

Does he come back after the break? I want to pick him up.

I haven't been able to find any updates on his status other then the Hornets are hoping he will be available after a week off

Do you think he will be ready for thursday? Yes (Up) No (Down)

I am worried that he might not be ready to start again after the all star break. Can't find anything recent.

It depends on if Miles Plumlee misses time, otherwise he oges back to the same value he had before

HOW MUCH VALUE DOES KAMINSKY HOLD AFTER HIS RETURN?

He is really, really good

He is probably the most important hornet this season. 2-14 without him

Yeah I also left him in my IR slot for this reason, but ended up missing out on picking up Nurkic because of roster limits. Kinda unfortunate and just a bit annoying how Yahoo handles it. Has happened with a lot of players this season. (Tyson Chandler earlier in the season was another good example.)

Wish when players return from injury for 1 game then re-injure themselves yahoo would be quicker to add the inj tag. Luckily I didn't move Zeller out of my IR spot when he came back for that one game, but still.

@jhiller if you need to win now, stream. If you have your playoff spot locked up, i'd hold still.

Is he still worth holding? His production just barely makes him useful enough to hold, but damn I could be streaming with his spot if he's still gonna be out for a bit. Hold (UP) or drop to stream (DOWN) most likely Thon

Cut for Hernangomer?

Good thing is that the days that he plays this upcoming week are busy schedules. He'll most likely be back after the all-star break.

Phil Jones of the NBA

Phil Jones of the NBA

guess i will hold the poor sap, i play the last place team for the next two weeks hah

tagged as inj prone?

Zeller (up) Collison (down)

Up Zeller (hope for health), Down Noel (hope for trade)

Sure is frustrating to own but I'm sure patience will pay off soon.

Post game Steve Clifford said nothing specific happened to Zeller tonight. Just lingering soreness is my guess.

Is he a drop in shallow 12 teamers (132 rostered)?

I have grabbed this bastard three different times and he has yet to get me a complete game - if he played at all.

he did take quite a few falls today maybe he is just sore.

goddamit

well crap. lol

Back into the lockeroom ffs!

looking pretty good first game back, scooped him up because someone dropped him.

Good info @scottkdouglas. Thanks.

Apparently the bruising went from his hip almost all the way down to his foot.... which probably explains why he's been on the shelf for so long.

Someone just dropped Cody in my 14 teams league. Is he worth my waiver (I'm 1st in line)? I'll throw Korver for him. Pick him up?

@65159 - Touche. But hey, I expect a lot from my fantasy squad :). Lol.

I don't think anyone really wants to play in pain 19032

Wow - is he really going to be out 6 games for a quad contusion? How bad can those really be? He must not want to play with any pain whatsoever.

Is there any concern with Plumlee joining Char? I've been holding Zeller and need him to stay above the 30 min mark to bring back he value I am hoping for

Love Cody's game. I think he's activity level is going to remain just about the same as before. It's not like Hibbert and Hawes were ever a threat to Cody's minutes. His biggest problem is staying healthy.

projection needs to be adjusted following the trade? i assume plumlee is not a threat to zeller's minutes

if you need games, then move on

@joshlloyd -- do we hold cody in a 10-team league if we are chasing a playoff spot given how he's appearing injury prone?

killing me

Zeller an upgrade over T. Booker? 9cat, punting pts and 3s.

Aw man really? Welp.

Gonna classify him as 'injury prone'!

I didn't see it but he misses games constantly so wouldn't be surprised if he sits . In Todays NBA guys sit for a hang nail!

Quad contusion? did anyone see this happening during the game, did it look that bad? looks like he's questionable for Wednesday now.

Agree, it's been baffling to me how he seems to be undervalued. Has been rock solid and is consistently seeing 30 min a night. He's also a good and smart real life player, so no risk of those minutes going anywhere.

Zeller seems to be incredibly undervalued in most leagues. Float out those offers before other managers catch on

Zeller (up) or Harkless (down) for ROS, 10-team league

add Zeller (up) or Toney Allen (down)? 12 team league.

Would you use your WW priority (3rd) to pick up Zeller for Trevor Booker?

Starting the week strong. Nice nice.

.......hope it's not concussion-related

That's the thing about concussions - there's never a timetable. Each is unique, and can vary in recovery time, which cannot be predicted. The only gauge is monitoring the athlete's progression through the stages of tests to return. I dropped Cody immediately due to this in a 10 team, and will pick him back up whenever he's finally cleared.

Do we have any idea what the timetable is for Zeller's concussion? Could this theoretically last as long as Horford's concussion did? (Or put another way - is there anything suggesting this this is less serious that Horford's?)

@ajh22 I thought so too, now might have to drop Brogdon to activate Porzingis :(

Zeller UP Warren Down

Don't players become IR eligible on yahoo once they miss a third game or are announced out for third game?

http://www.csnne.com/boston-celtics/with-al-horford-out-nba-concussion-protocol-explained

How many tests are there in a NBA concussion protocol? Reports say he passed the first test, but does that leave him enough time to play by tomorrow?

Hopefully is just a short term issue. He has been very solid with the shooting %s, Stocks, and low TOs on top of decent assists for a big.

Up for Zeller down for Harkless

Up for Zeller down for Rodney Hood

Zeller (up) or Mason Plumlee (down)?

Up for Zeller, down for Monroe

Up for Zeller. Down for Taj Gibson rest of season.

Would be monster line if he hit some shots

cody (up) or capela (down)? 12 team league

Cody (up) or O'Quinn (down) ?

Yeah at this point you're just hoping Cody isn't pulling an Al Jefferson with his FT%. His minutes are trending in the right direction so it's really up to Cody to work on his foul rate.

Very underrated. Doesn't put eye popping stats, but his efficiency in FG% and TO is a solid asset. FT% seems to be trending upwards which will make him even more valuable.

Zeller up, Nurkic down

His FT% caps him at around top-150. Once that normalize back up, he'll be capped at around top-100 by his low usage. Unless he can get more than 7 FGA, he can't move up. I just done see where the usage would come from when sharing the court with Kemba and Batum. MKG and Marvin are not low usage guys either.

http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/10/29/isaiah-thomas-cody-zeller-miss-pair-free-throws

wow great point. didnt realize hes over 100 pts below his career FT%! Anyone whos been watching his game have an explanation? Or should we be excited for a return to his career avg?

His ceiling isn't capped by his low usage, it's his current FT% and the fact that he averages less than 27 minutes. He's been playing more, but his fouling is another consideration. Also, a lot of his value right now is coming from his high FG%, something that wouldn't be helped by higher usage.

He's their one young big with talent and athleticism. I would imagine that he would continue to develop as the season progresses.

Is top-100 his ceiling for this season, given his low usage? I like him but I just don't see a path to higher usage.

I don't believe it can continue to be this bad

the FT% has been an anchor(in a bad way) to his ranking, his other stats are solid and trending up. He can't keep shooting 50-60% after shooting 75-77% the past two seasons...can he? Deciding between him and Tyler Johnson.

Up for Zeller, down for MKG. Well rounded 9 cat H2H team.

Need to keep one of either Cody Zeller or Larry Nance (and make space for Gary Harris back hopefully mid-Dec). What say you? UP for Zeller or DOWN for Nance. Cheers!

He has been a killer in FT% unfortunately as he takes a big number of them and thats a problem in my roto league. In general though he has been very useful.

Depends on the league, but Zellers fg and ft% are better than nurk. Unless you're punting ft%, he really hurts you there.

Better season long candidate for low ened source of blocks: Cody Zeller or Terrence Jones

I'd say holding Nurk is a better idea because something has got to give in Den. And if Nurkic is fully freed, as in, they deal Nurkic or Jokic, Nurkic will be far more valuable than Zeller, IMO.

Add Zeller for Nurkic?

He showed flashes last year and they paid him because of it. He's responded by playing well in limited minutes. They gave him a few more minutes and he played even better. I think he'll earn 28 to 30 minutes a night by the 2nd half and is a breakout candidate IMO.

Zeller or Kaminsky?

Zeller dropped in one of my leagues. Run and grab?

Drop Cody for Lucas Nogueira? I realize he was in foul trouble today, resulting in the shitty game, but Hibbert coming back also.

Coz they are just terrible at their job. Probably none in the entire company watches NBA, makes sense!

Why is he not 'C' Eligible in ESPN leagues? We all should tweet @espnfantasy to get them to change it.

He has a history of hitting over 3/4 of his freebies. That's a larger sample size compared to the 4 games he has played so far

Is this guy a decent FT shooter? Part of the appeal of me grabbing him was his solid percentages at the FT line for a big according to the projections.

Is Zeller a better prospect than Mozgov or Tyson Chandler?

Depends on your team I think.... Zeller has discrete value as a Center with good percentages, which can be helpful. JaMychal seems to fill it up generally when he plays. I used him last year towards the end... if I recall at times he was super productive with overall counting stats. I own both but would keep Zeller if I had to choose... any uptick in his production puts him in last year Robin Lopez territory.

better chance of breakout Cody Zeller or JaMychal Green?

Also no Jefferson this year. While they did replace Big Al with Hibbert I think Hibbert will rebound at a lower rate than Jefferson and will have a lower amount of usage. Some of this filter to Cody

4th season, should be a bigger role, but it's going to be curious jos Clifford uses Hinbert

Hey Josh, whats the rationale behind Zeller's projection bump from last year? Looking for a REB/BLK big to fill out my team and he's sitting on the wire.

It's looking more promising, but I'd like to see him in a game first

He practiced today, so it looks like he should be ready for opening night