Joel Embiid - PHI - C

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TeamPHI
Age23
Draft2016 (Pick 3)
NBA Salary$4,826,160
Projection Updated4/12/2017
Out for season - meniscus - Projected Return 9/1/2017
84.3d
flammable451
100% (3) agree 
Thank you so much BBM! Won my fantasy championship 9-0 H2H this year in a very competitive league... couldn't have done it without all of you (especially all of your up/down votes)!
93.4d
MCsun
50% (6) agree 
laughing at all these guys talking about taking him first round next year.
95.4d
dunishr
@Tmart21 because the Sixers are an unmitigated disaster when it comes to managing injuries
95.4d
Tmart21
Why the delay in the surgery when they mentioned it so long ago?
95.6d
ferris
I hope I'll feel good about keeping him next year. I saw him as a top 20 guy.
95.6d
gehrenberg
Sixers non commitall to him being ready to start next year. This is the worst
104.6d
tonika_zr
100% (2) agree 
Over the Sixers last 15 games, Dario Saric is averaging 20.0 points, 8.1 rebounds, 3.7 assists and 1.7 treys. Saric is one of just four players averaging at least 20/8/3/1 since Feb. 8 — the other three are LeBron,Cousins and Westbrook.
106.8d
gehrenberg
33% (3) agree 
Expected to have surgery. Do people still think this is a fake injury?
116.0d
Donnie99
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNkxij3n30M They read the debate here :D
116.4d
goswald
100% (3) agree 
Perhaps they saw the 10 win January and thought... We're gonna play our way to a 8th pick? No way... Shut them down and hope a random team wins lottery... Pushing Lakers to 4th pick and Sixers 5th (unless kings or Sixers win the jackpot)----still pushes Lakers to 4th. Colangelo sucks. Hinkie was the man.
116.5d
cadavi
100% (1) agree 
was so fun to own when he played...where to draft him next season is now the question
116.6d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
Well Embiid has also said he was hurt in interviews and was upset with the Sixers for downplaying the severity of his injury. What would be his incentive for lying and pretending to be injured. I also saw him get hurt
116.6d
#29527
0% (3) agree 
For all we know Embiid's knee is 100% fine. Why does Philly have to tell the truth here? They obviously haven't in the past. It's in their best interest to shut him down whether he is healthy or not. I'm half kidding, half being serious
116.6d
baywatch
100% (3) agree 
Both Embiid and Simmons have to be injured. Which leaves us with A) the philadelphia medical staff are incompetent and misdiagnose or completely miss injuries. Or B) The management just lies and spins the news. Neither is good.
116.6d
tonika_zr
Yes, and GOD with capital letters.
116.6d
gehrenberg
100% (2) agree 
Hinkie is god. Let's not sully his name
116.6d
tonika_zr
0% (1) agree 
Yeah, Hinkie was Einstein for this clowns.
116.6d
baywatch
Positive side his foot is fine and that was a major concern. Meniscus is more of a freak injury. Can probably get him at a reasonable discount next year because of the injuries.
116.6d
dunishr
100% (3) agree 
He will have played in 31 of a possible 246 games (12.6%) through his first 3 seasons. I'll let someone else deal with him next year.
116.6d
ferris
100% (2) agree 
The least surprising news ever.
116.7d
Dez45
100% (1) agree 
Great transparency colangelo. Worse than hinkie? Update those damn MRI machines!
116.7d
gehrenberg
100% (3) agree 
Which goes back to my original point that I think there is a huge issue with the Sixers medical staff handling of injuries. @Martiaci do you really think the Sixers allowed Simmons to undergo a foot procedure this week when there is nothing wrong with his foot. Why risk his future (and if your the doctor your credibility)?
116.7d
nonyschuk
Buyer beware if you're in a Dynasty league on the likes of Simmons and Embiid, not to mention whoever they draft this summer. Injuries don't mean the same with this team as they do for almost any other and that will kill your team even if they are highly touted talents.
116.7d
jw9nine
so help me out on this one..18 days ago, meniscus tear is considered low-grade. they allow him to participate in some activity then now it's gotten worse. so either totally inept medical staff, imaging devices or just tomfoolery. Hey Magic, PHI gonna try and reduce your chances of landing that protected #3 pick yo!
116.7d
Martiaci
It's extremely suspicious that both of their top prospects had their injuries get worse after they were getting better. The Sixers have a solid core, but they could sure use a PG and with this upcoming draft, I would shut down Embiid and Simmons as well after seeing how well they played a couple of months ago. They can't simply shut down their players without an excuse of injury because it goes against the League's interest.
116.7d
lbjames6
100% (4) agree 
If the Sixers wanted Embiid to play this season he would have had an MRI and surgery when he originally got hurt and he'd be back by now. Instead, we get PR mindgames and Embiid saying BS the front office is telling him to say. It's fairly obvious they've gone into tank mode.
116.7d
gehrenberg
42% (12) agree 
Just wondering is the majority opinion really that Embiid and Simmons are both fine and the Sixers won't play them just to lose more games?
116.7d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
Well we just got an update. Out for the year. The bone bruise has healed, but the tear has gotten worse. Hopefully he doesn't need surgery.
116.7d
Martiaci
100% (1) agree 
Riggin' for Wiggins! .... Wait ...
116.7d
jw9nine
100% (1) agree 
and just like that..tank it! can't wait to see more news of Embiid rocking it out on concerts
116.7d
jw9nine
may be the case...if so, then some poorly chosen words from writer of that article: "They want members of their medical team to be in agreement with what they see in the MRI results."
116.7d
gehrenberg
I am pretty sure Embiid is hurt. He said himself he is hurt. If he was healthy he would be playing. I don't buy into the conspiracy that Embiid and Simmons are fine and the Sixers just won't play them. It would be extreme incompetence to have Simmons undergo a foot procedure this week to through people off the scent of him really being okay
116.7d
gehrenberg
I would guess it means that the medical staff is split on treatment options. So some people of the medical team might see the MRI and say based on what they are seeing they think one treatment is optimal and other people on staff disagree. I don't think they are disagreeing on what the actual injury is
116.7d
Martiaci
100% (1) agree 
Or they are tanking and they are just stalling to see how bad the team is over the next week or two and they can afford to win a couple of more games with Embiid.
116.7d
tonika_zr
100% (2) agree 
what other things to expect from shitshow of the organization.
116.7d
jw9nine
"They want members of their medical team to be in agreement with what they see in the MRI results." Wth is that--either injury is so peculiar that they can't unanimously agree on it or Sixers don't want a member leaving/getting fired and saying later on "didn't agree with diagnosis/prognosis"...ugh
116.7d
gehrenberg
Simmons has a broken foot and Embiid has a bad knee. That much I am sure of. I just think the medical staff has mismanaged their injuries. It kind of went under the radar, but Simmons had to have another foot procedure done this week. To let him practice with a broken foot was completely inexcusable
116.7d
lordbattletank
Durant can get hurt one day, mri the next and results released a few hours after that. We still don't know whats wrong with Simmons and Embiid after MONTHS.
116.7d
gehrenberg
100% (4) agree 
I am starting to think the Sixers have one of the worst medical staffs in the NBA. I think clearly Embiid should not have been allowed to play in that game against Houston and they let Simmons practice on a broken foot, which may have been why he had to have an additional procedure done this week.
116.7d
lbjames6
33% (3) agree 
Sixers tank confirmed
116.7d
kylemckeown16
Keith Pompey's new article gives us an update of sorts. From the article: "As of Wednesday morning, the team had not announced the results of the scan. The Sixers are expected to give a medical update as early as Wednesday evening. The team said they need the extra time to seek further insight on his knee. They want members of their medical team to be in agreement with what they see in the MRI results." -- http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/sports/sixers/Sixers-says-Joel-Embiids-future-still-uncertain.html
116.7d
kylemckeown16
@jw9nine -- It's an educated guess. We really have no idea when Embiid may return. @amandyeh -- There have not been any updates since it was reported that he'd undergo an MRI on Monday.
116.7d
amandayeh
any update?
116.8d
jw9nine
100% (1) agree 
Is the projected return an educated guess or was there news out that I missed?
117.8d
jay14bay
100% (3) agree 
Historically the ROY award is not linked to team wins, whatsoever. Often it has been the (inefficient) rookie getting the most run on a really bad team. So I don't follow the "he didn't make his team good" argument. I do follow the argument that he didn't even play enough games to qualify. But it is close..
118.2d
#2664
0% (4) agree 
As we already agreed, Embiid is the best rookie by far but he only plays 31 games on only 25 mpg with 13-18 record. His case would be better if he's able to play 40 mpg and win a lot more games. As of now, he's not special enough to overcome the lack of games. I can see maybe Brogdon or Willy wins it, both meh choices btw, depending how they fare ROS.
118.3d
gehrenberg
100% (2) agree 
To me team record is irrelevant since it's an individual award. Which is why I isolated the Sixers numbers to when he is on the court. I don't think the quality of the Sixers bench should have any bearing on Embiids rookie of the year candidacy
118.3d
Dckiller27
100% (2) agree 
Don't see a single one. This draft class was absolute garbage. Simmons never played, Hield and Murray are both insanely inconsistent and can only score, Dunn never played, Bender never. The only guy that can make any case at all is Brogdon who I've been vouching for lately but since Kidd is an idiot idt he comes close to Embiid. 31 games or not, the 76ers were a near .500 team with Embiid playing and their team was transformed.
118.3d
gehrenberg
Which rookie do you think has been more valuable than him then?
118.3d
#2664
It doesn't translate to the sixers having a winning record with him playing though. It's not special enough. He'd have to be Wilt-like I think to win it in only 30 games. I'm not sure about 30 games being more valuable. That means 50+ games of zeros. Add to that he was only able to play 25 minutes per night. It's just tough to think of him as ROY unless the consideration is solely 'best player'.
118.3d
gehrenberg
Some more Embiid numbers. When he is on the court the Sixers have a defensive efficiency of 102 which would rank 4th in the league, right behind Utah but ahead of Memphis. With Embiid off the court the Sixers have a defensive efficiency of 110.9 which would be dead last in the NBA. Even if we were discussing this as most valuable rookie I think it's would be pretty easy to quantify that 30 games of Embiid is more valuable than what any other rookie this year did in 80 games
118.3d
gehrenberg
With Embiid on the floor the Sixers outscore team by 3.6 points per 100 possesions. So they are a winning team with him on the court despite him having a bad team around him
118.3d
#2664
Clearly he's the best rookie by far but only playing in 38% of the games in a losing season...it's tough. Maybe if he does something special like winning a lot of games despite terrible teammates he'd have a chance...Has there been anyone in any sport who miss 60%+ of the season but still wins 'player of the year'?
118.3d
dunishr
Agreed on that. If he doesn't play again this year, I believe many of the voters will be having the same conversations we are having as to what makes a player 'deserving' of the award.
118.3d
joshlloyd48
He makes this a moot point if he comes back in a week and plays out the stretch, though, but it is going to be interesting to see which way the voters go.
118.3d
dunishr
Fair enough, reasonable minds can disagree. I tend to believe that being on the court is an important part of helping your team win. Embiid is certainly the most talented rookie.
118.3d
joshlloyd48
Because i can't see a situation in any other award where the gap between number one and two is so stark. It would be like comparing Harden to Kent Bazemore for MVP, that's the drop off level.
118.3d
jay14bay
Actually, after reading more closely, the rookie requirements are half of the 58, so 29. then joel would qualify. it will be interesting to see what happens
118.3d
dunishr
33% (3) agree 
You'd never see any other award (MVP, 6th Man, DPOY) given to a player who misses 50+ games. Why should ROY be any different?
118.3d
jay14bay
http://stats.nba.com/help/statistical_minimums.html If i had a vote, he would need to play 58 games to qualify (shockingly, I don't)
118.4d
joshlloyd48
100% (1) agree 
Saric will end up playing 70-odd games, but only playing well in say 25 of them. And the quality of his 25 is lower than Embiid's 31, but that fact that he was on the court for the other games, even though he was bad, will count in his favour. I don't like that rationale
118.4d
Donnie99
I agree, not only he is the best rookie but he is by far the best rookie this year. But it's kind of iffy since saric is playing ball now and games played might be a factor.
118.4d
joshlloyd48
100% (3) agree 
What does deserving mean? He is the best rookie of the year.
118.4d
tonika_zr
33% (3) agree 
Agree is the best but playing 30 gms its not in any way deserving to get the trophy.
118.4d
gehrenberg
We will know more once the MRI results come back
118.4d
svengali90
Is it likely they Shut him down? He just got dropped to waivers.
118.4d
joshlloyd48
100% (2) agree 
I agree, I don't care that he's played 31 games. He's been the best - not close
118.4d
gehrenberg
100% (2) agree 
I would still vote for Embiid. He's been the best rookie in my opinion.
118.4d
tonika_zr
50% (4) agree 
No way he gets ROY with 30 gms (well, if its rigged then he will).
118.4d
Donnie99
100% (1) agree 
Too bad, love this guy's heart and talent. On the other hand, Saric might be able to snatch the ROY. I don't think Embiid is worth the award as he only played 31 games. Willy will surpass him soon as well.
118.6d
Martiaci
100% (1) agree 
Colangelo is a wanna-be Hinkie
118.6d
dunishr
100% (1) agree 
@jw9nine Obviously, dancing on stage at a concert is not equivalent to playing basketball at the highest level, but it's still not a good look if he's actually serious about being a top player in this league. Perhaps Gronk is a better comparison than Greg Oden... immense talent, questionable off field/court antics, and a complete inability to stay healthy.
118.7d
jw9nine
@dunishr >< smh
118.7d
kylemckeown16
Embiid has NOT been ruled out for the season yet. He is undergoing an MRI Monday afternoon to try to determine why increased activity is causing his knee to swell. I'd guess we'll know more on his status sometime Tuesday.
118.7d
jbs5635
All leagues should incorporate some type or IR now imo, but especially keeper or dynasty leagues...for that very reason you mention.
118.7d
ferris
100% (3) agree 
The keeper league poison pill, won't play again this season but can't drop
118.8d
dunishr
https://tinyurl.com/hkxzah5
118.8d
amandayeh
0% (4) agree 
Anyone thinks he'd still play this a seaison? Smh
118.8d
GDiama
Well, if they finish lower than the Lakers they ll possibly get 2 top 5 picks :)
118.8d
kahlev
100% (1) agree 
Okafor up Ferrell down?
118.8d
gehrenberg
Keith Pompey corrected his tweet. It's the knee
118.8d
amandayeh
100% (5) agree 
they just want to tank
118.8d
kslight
Sounds like it's the knee.
118.8d
jw9nine
i stand corrected. reporter says foot. sixers twitter feed says knee. not sure if it's that much better but at least it's from the same inj that has him DNP-ing last few wks
118.8d
mareshcj
100% (1) agree 
Conflicting reports though. Sixers say knee, linked tweet said foot.
118.8d
jw9nine
yep. especially since report says swelling is on his foot. bone bruise is on the knee
118.8d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
Damn this seems like it might be bad news coming
120.8d
#63195
29% (7) agree 
Dropped in my league and made it to FA unclaimed. Is he must grab for a team fighting for playoffs? Seems like wont play enough games. Drop would be M Smart
122.5d
baywatch
0% (1) agree 
Article on ESPN where Embiid calls out the Philly organisation for lying to the public about his injury and his return date. I'll believe he's back when he's out there playing.
122.8d
wilsonhw
0% (1) agree 
Sixers Twitter: Update: Embiid went through full practice. Medical staff encouraged by progress towards becoming game ready. Target for return 3/3 v NYK.
122.8d
dunishr
0% (1) agree 
This guy...at some point he actually has to play in order to win ROY, right? Has anyone ever won the award playing in less than half his team's games?
123.7d
jw9nine
0% (2) agree 
"they're being extremely cautious" aka tanking. they just don't want to outright see it coz let's face it, Embiid playing and "wanting to see Simmons play this season" will sell tickets. balancing act btwn that the top 3 protected Lakers pick. NEED....TO....REDUCE...CHANCES...OF...LAL...GETTING...TOP 3 PICK
123.8d
dunishr
0% (2) agree 
I'm starting to think this guy is just a more talented Greg Oden...he's played a whopping 31 games in 3 NBA seasons!
123.8d
Jstew
75% (4) agree 
OK, starting to get nervous now... Should I be?
123.8d
ferris
A keeper league poison pill.
129.5d
#63195
44% (9) agree 
Up for Embiid, Down for Crowder
129.8d
tjf673
38% (8) agree 
Up for oladipo, down for embiid
130.7d
#63195
Additionally im waiting on cp3 still
130.7d
#63195
0% (5) agree 
Punt points 9 cat team. Ive just been offered wmbiid for covington. Standings are tight. Do I pull the trigger or is he too risky right now/this yr
131.5d
svengali90
Thank you for the swift reply. The only thing I'm frightened of is that Philly shuts Embiid down for ROS, is he still worth the trouble? Appreciate it BBM fam
131.5d
joshlloyd48
It's both, but he is going to be back very soon
131.5d
svengali90
So, is it just a bone bruise? or partially torn meniscus? I was contemplating trading Aldridge to get Embiid
132.3d
mchilson21
0% (1) agree 
You can't afford to drop your worst player for him? Who is your worst player?
132.3d
galaxybird
33% (3) agree 
He just got dropped in my league... I'm fighting for a playoff spot. Debating the pick up, but can't afford it, I don't think.
133.3d
ferris
80% (5) agree 
Wow. Seems like it's time to make some offers to acquire Embiid.
133.3d
mflaxman
25% (4) agree 
Fighting for a playoff spot and there are no takers on trades. Is he droppable?
134.4d
ballislife15
75% (4) agree 
Embiid, Khawi and O'Quinn (up) B.Lopez, Valanciunas, and R. Anderson (down) Roto 9 cat
134.5d
kylemckeown16
Embiid should essentially be considered out indefinitely for the time being. Even with the announcement that he has a low-grade meniscus tear, the team continues to simply call him day-to-day. We don't know when he's going to return. Embiid partook in shootaround this morning, and whether or not he is close to returning will depend on how well his knee responds tomorrow (to the work he did today). His knee has been swelling up on him anytime he has tried to amp up his activity the last couple weeks. The hope is that the swelling is behind him now. We may get another update tomorrow.
134.5d
ferris
Already missed 2 weeks, do the injury experts think he'll be ready right after the break?
134.5d
gehrenberg
Maybe he came back too soon from the first injury and did some more damage to the knee in the Houston game?
134.5d
theo156
Derek Bodner of USA Today reported Embiid has a minor tear in his meniscus in addition to a knee contusion, though he will not require surgery and is considered day-to-day.
134.6d
lordbattletank
Embiid had some comments out today that said he's just not healthy and that him and the sixers take his health very seriously. Every time its felt good it has swelled up again. it'll just take time..
134.8d
jw9nine
0% (2) agree 
again, "...they are going to be very cautious." AND "having him play vs Hous b/c he was feeling well enough..." appear to contradict each other. here's my theory--they had a decent winning streak much of which can be said to be due to Embiid's play. the organization probably didn't see that winning streak coming and decided to "slow it down". Philly mgmt is well aware of the protected top 3 pick from the LAL. LAL decides to move onto player dev't and suddenly Philly needs to find a way to reduce chances of LAL landing the top 3 pick. no clearer way to do that than try to finish worse than the LAL.
137.5d
jaknife
100% (2) agree 
Philadelphian here. he likely played vs Hou b/c he was feeling well enough to and it was a nationally televised game. When i saw the injury initially it was bad enough looking that i nearly threw up. the sixers have shown in Jojo's history that they are going to be very cautious. he has a bone bruise and all you can really do for those is rest and get treatment. given that, i'm not surprised he's been out and i'm glad he has been if there's virtually any chance he isn't 100% healed. That does not however mean that they are all of a sudden tanking. Embiid has shown that he has a chance to turn into a top 5 or so player in the league. You DO NOT mess with that in a season where the best case scenario is that they win the 8th seed (and a tiny chance at that), it's not worth it. Jojo has also shown himself to be a little clumsy at times. Much like a baby deer on roller skates on ice. They aren't tanking, they're being careful with their future.
137.5d
GDiama
83% (6) agree 
I get you dont like Okafor but you and Josh have gone over the limit with these things.
137.7d
gehrenberg
50% (14) agree 
If they really want to increase Okafor's trade value they should bury him on the bench where scouts can't see him play
137.7d
jw9nine
75% (4) agree 
knowing how careful they've been with him and the times they didn't play him that much more minutes even with game on the line, i don't see how they allowed him to talk them into playing vs HOU (8 days later) if he really had a bad injury.
137.7d
kylemckeown16
100% (2) agree 
No, the Sixers aren't sitting Embiid out to tank. He's hurt. You can watch the video of the injury here: He jammed his knee bad. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyCP62LxuJ4
137.7d
amandayeh
67% (3) agree 
seems like JOJO has little chance to play b2b during fantasy po sigh
137.7d
amandayeh
Is 76ers just in a tank mode? I'm destroyed by PHI's office....
137.7d
jw9nine
50% (2) agree 
i think when team had a winning streak, mgmt got scared they might lose ground for lottery position. now that the Lakers are in player dev't mode, higher probability that Sixers play anyone not named Embiid and likely just tease ticket buyers/holders when it comes to Simmons
137.7d
Dckiller27
33% (3) agree 
I don't think he'll be shut down. They are being cautious which is giving them leverage to showcase Okafor for a trade. He'll be back for playoffs, would rather have 3 games of Embiid then 4 games of Ariza in playoffs
137.7d
mchilson21
67% (6) agree 
14 Team 9 Cat H2H. I'm locked in for playoffs. My Ariza (Up) for his Embiid (Down)?
140.8d
tmfaherty89
86% (7) agree 
What are the chances he gets shut down? Was offered Embiid + Butler (UP) for Durant + Warren (DOWN)
142.3d
jw9nine
if they're gonna risk his bruise, might as well try to do it at a home game and maybe sell a few more tickets
142.5d
mavergara07
67% (3) agree 
Not playing Saturday, and Monday. Its obvious the 76ers are tanking.
146.5d
cadavi
50% (2) agree 
so many good young centers - Joker, Turner, Gobert, Process...no need to reach too aggressively next year
146.6d
joshlloyd48
It's obviously too early to tell, but I think he will have no restrictions next season, assuming no further major injuries occur. We are a long way away from that information crystallising though
146.6d
gehrenberg
I think he will have less restrictions next season, but I am doubtful that there will be zero restrictions
146.6d
WhiteShadowDFS
0% (1) agree 
Granted I am a philly homer so maybe not listen to me!
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WhiteShadowDFS
60% (5) agree 
Baring setbacks I assume he will play more minutes and more games next year Easily making him a first round pick
146.6d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
Based on a poll I just put up on twitter it seems like most people are going to be taking him the first round next year. This likely means I won't be owning Embiid next season
146.6d
theo156
100% (4) agree 
I think there will be at least one person in every league that would take him in the top25 easily.
146.6d
gehrenberg
100% (4) agree 
Considering how many people said Davis was undraftable in h2h this year, I will be curious to see how people value Embiid next season. Especially if he still doesn't get cleared to play b2b
146.6d
kylemckeown16
Make sure he's out of your weekly lineups. Out tonight and doubtful for the next two games.
147.4d
svengali90
100% (5) agree 
Embiid/A.Bradley(up)/ Covington/Holiday(down); 12 team 9-CAT.
148.8d
hsahardid
86% (7) agree 
Should I trade Porzingis to get Embiid in a keeper league (4 players)?
150.2d
Dckiller27
0% (8) agree 
Whiteside, Dragic Or Embiid, Taj, Jennings. 8 Cat DYNASTY league. Up for Whiteside Down for Embiid
158.6d
gehrenberg
73% (11) agree 
I love Jojo. But I can't reason having him taking a slot over Lebron, Giannis or butler. Those are my frontcourt picks
158.6d
Dominic-Nguyen
75% (4) agree 
He should be a starter for the all-star game
158.7d
#27155
57% (7) agree 
Take some aspirin and get on the court! We only get you three times this week, sheesh.
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theo156
100% (1) agree 
There are many people claiming that Embiid up late last night drinking Shirley Temples on Instagram Live! Did anyone notice that?
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unbigote
20% (5) agree 
Trade a 12th rd Paul George for a 7th rd Embiid in a keep 5? Up for Agree. Thanks.
165.5d
arllahey
100% (3) agree 
Exhale
165.5d
gehrenberg
Ankle sprain but available for second half
165.5d
gehrenberg
Just hopefully it wasn't his foot
165.5d
ferris
100% (1) agree 
Looks like an ankle
168.2d
shadowxp
44% (9) agree 
Should I trade Whiteside for Embiid? 8 Cats ROTO
184.3d
chillPenguin
Only if this is a keeper league. Otherwise, the Cousins/Rubio side should be better total value this season.
184.3d
mflaxman
0% (4) agree 
Giving up Cousins and Rubio for Embiid and DeRozan - is Embiid worth the risk?
188.8d
gehrenberg
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nba/2288/joel-embiid
188.8d
lordbattletank
He complained about being a PF and not having any action on the court and that it was the first time he didn't trust what was going on. Since those comments they've largely been apart from each other.
188.9d
amandayeh
Hi @ehrenberg where did you see Embiid said doesn't like playing with Okafor? Thx
189.3d
#27155
0% (1) agree 
Less of a mess when they make the right call and just DNP-CD Noel so that EMBIIIID can do his thing. God I love Embiid.
190.6d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
Already hinting that he doesn't like playing with Okafor. The big man situation is a mess in philly
192.8d
#27155
100% (2) agree 
@benron: magic 8-ball says: "Maybe"
192.8d
benron
Embiid got the start last night at PF. I am currently in a 12 team CBS weekly league. I would need 4 more starts from Embiid at the PF spot for him to qualify at forward. We use 2 centers, 4 forwards, and 4 guards in our league. I already start Drummond and Jordan at center so Embiid qualifying for forward eligibility would be huge for me. Will Embiid get those 4 more starts?
194.4d
baywatch
100% (2) agree 
He has to be cleared for back to backs at some point this season. The cotton wool the Philly training staff have him in cant be that thick. Must have trust in his health at some point.
198.6d
aytunc
50% (14) agree 
Up Batum Down Embiid. Does it worth the risk for Embiid, if he starts playing back to backs i will be the winner of this trade. What do you think?
198.6d
kylemckeown16
100% (2) agree 
theo156 -- I think that trade would be reasonable if we knew that Embiid would eventually be able to play in both games of a b2b by the end of the season. Since we don't know if he will, I'd likely be sticking with the Whiteside/Clarkson side of the deal. It's definitely intriguing.
198.9d
theo156
0% (5) agree 
Trade Whiteside+Clarkson for Embiid and LaVine?
199.8d
gehrenberg
100% (2) agree 
My understanding is they are constantly evaluating his restrictions. Nothing is set in stone. Right now I would guess he won't play in any back to backs. If he does they might do something like limit him to 20 minutes in each part of the back to back scenario
199.8d
aytunc
Will they rest him back to back all season long? Any info?
207.5d
bonezi89
100% (1) agree 
76ers and Kings related note, game looks to be canned?
207.5d
#27155
Probably not with all those 3s he is taking.
207.5d
jxu87
bump on his fg%? His season/college averages are hovering around 48-50%
214.3d
Donnie99
100% (1) agree 
Props to this guy, He was so upset he can't play in the 2nd OT
218.5d
ferris
60% (5) agree 
Probably could have lived without the embiid isn't playing update lol
218.5d
jw9nine
100% (1) agree 
just to add, I also have Dieng. given same scenario as below, who would you rather trade or Embiid? Up for Dieng, Down for Jok. ROS and obviously 2 more yrs to be taken into consideration
218.5d
jw9nine
12T, H2H, 3 yr max hold (this yr is 1st yr), 4 keeper league. Including injury and real life roster risk, Embiid > Jokic? I'd be selling low on Jokic given I drafted him at 48.
219.4d
mavergara07
No way @Joey_B Embiid will be even more beast next year. 1st round value especially if you keep 6 players. Assuming a 10team league, hes well over Top 60. Pau is just garbage. And will regress every year from now
219.5d
Joey_B
50% (2) agree 
Got offered Embiid for Pau Gasol and a first rounder next year. We keep six players every year. 9 cat h2h. Pull the trigger?
222.4d
nomster
0% (6) agree 
Trade my Dieng for Embiid? My FG is very strong ATM but Embiid will kill my TO
222.6d
kchung4388
He reminds me of a young Hakeem Olajuwon with range. Absolute freak. Really hope he just stays healthy and has a long career.
222.6d
joshlloyd48
100% (4) agree 
I would pay zero attention to his turnover numbers. I believe Embiid can become a top 20 fantasy player without too much issue and could easily be a 20/10 guy with 1 three and 2+ blocks on good %
222.6d
#27155
What's up with these crazy turnover numbers? Let's say those settle down as he gets more experience, what kind of numbers overall are you forecasting him to grow into? Need to know to make decisions in keeper league.
225.6d
Joey_B
Are they gonna rest Embiid all season long?
225.6d
CoolGuy
100% (1) agree 
So what are the chances of the league correcting one of Embiid's stats for the Pacers game? He should have had 2 blocks credited to him. Instead, one of the blocks was given to Ilyasova even though it was clearly Embiid who blocked the shot. Proof is in the game highlights if you search it up on Youtube. 4th quarter with about 4 minutes to go. Hits a big three then down the other end gets a block on Jefferson.
226.3d
nostraduckus
I want to trade Jokic for Embiid as well, but I doubt the guy in my league will take it. Thinking it would have to be a 2 for 1, but not sure if that is putting too much value on Embiid.
226.5d
sportzman67
Was looking forward to the Embiid-Turner matchup. Both of them have two fouls within the first 2 minutes of the game...
231.9d
arialph
88% (8) agree 
trade my Jokic for Embiid? I also have an option for Marc Gasol. Which is better? I think Embiid is more fun to own, I want to trust the process.
232.2d
ferris
Most likely to win a 2017 auction league based on keeper value
232.4d
LRC_Kevin
100% (1) agree 
So this guy is the real deal? His lines in ~25 minutes are awesome minus the TO's.
236.6d
drkinbote
100% (3) agree 
Don't get me wrong, this guy has shown more promise in 20 minutes than Len has in his entire life
236.7d
hukchobo
100% (3) agree 
You can't ignore his usage rate though. Sure, he's only playing 20-25 minutes but if his usage rate hovers around 30%-35% then he will have value regardless.
236.7d
drkinbote
He played like 15 minutes in the second game. We have no idea how B2Bs will affect his minutes either. Noel is out and Okafor is also on a minutes restriction. His Fouls/36 is 6.7 (two games in, granted) – minute restrictions might not be the only thing to limit his minutes. So, a season projection of 23 minutes seems fair.
236.7d
jxu87
His minutes restriction has already been raised to 24m after 2 games - his current 23 m/g projection for the season seems low.
238.6d
action781
Philly isn't trying to win games right now. They priority is working on developing their prospects -- Embiid mostly. They are being smart in being super cautious in limiting his minutes. Limiting him to 20-24mpg and sitting him in b2b's will still afford Okafor an average of 24-30mpg off the bench. Then both of them are getting their playing time in the optimal setting as the lone C on the floor.
238.6d
benron
0% (1) agree 
Embiid is easily as athletic as Porzingas currently is at PF. Both Okafor and Embiid are superior ball handlers in the halk court as well, unlike Noel, who did nothing but kill any chance at running a half court offense. Noel is best on a team with superior guards. The Sixers have never had that, hence why Noel must go. Starting both Embiid and Okafor takes pressure off of the lousy backcourt and off one another. It's a no brainer to eventually have Okafor starting next to Embiid.
238.6d
littledancerlena
67% (3) agree 
Kinda seems like Embiid's usage projection is in need of a substantial upward revision based on my eye test of the Philly games.
238.6d
baywatch
I dont think they share the court a great deal. Moving Embiid to PF youd lose his rim protection and together theres less space to work on offense. Made that mistake with Noel and Okafor last year. Id imagine Okafor will be Embiids backup.
239.7d
benron
It's becoming clear that Brown wants to play Embiid with Okafor once the minutes restriction is lifted. I would think Embiid starts at PF with Okafor at center. Once Simmons comes back, I believe Brown wants Simmons as his PG going forward. He hinted at this during the preseason. I think this would then open the door for Stauskas to start at SG to give them another shooter.
241.6d
ferris
While he won't have Towns' first year impact, Embiid is going to be the guy that wins auction keeper leagues next year.
241.7d
gehrenberg
100% (2) agree 
On the plus side he has requested to be nicknamed "The Process" which is the best and most self aware nickname in sports
241.7d
gehrenberg
100% (5) agree 
Towns put up first round value last year and appears to be an MVP candidate for the foreseeable future. Embiid is currently restricted to 20 minutes, has major long term durability concerns after multiple foot surgeries kept him off the court his first two years in the league and has played one game. It's a little early
241.8d
ferris
43% (7) agree 
Is it too early or too late to call Embiid this year's Towns?
248.2d
ak murthy
80% (5) agree 
Minutes restriction be damned. This guy is just oozing talent and he's hungry to prove himself. With Noel likely to be traded and increased minutes throughout the season, I think we many people will regret passing on him by the end of the season. It may take some time, but this guy is going to be a fantasy star.
248.3d
Hectorious
100% (1) agree 
He might beat the projection for 3pts (6 for the season) by Week 2. Nice bonus and amazing upside.
248.7d
therealcomptroler
His Yahoo ADP is 122? Is that right? I'd guess the public would be higher on him.
254.7d
mprakrn
100% (2) agree 
what do you guys think of his free throw %? hes been doing excellent in the pre season.
255.1d
joshlloyd48
100% (2) agree 
It's pretty high in a dynasty, I think top 50 easily if you like risk taking
255.1d
Sephiroth_98
People in my league seem to be targeting Embiid. I think they will reach for him. any idea where his ranking is proper? i mean around when should we take a potential player like him for a dynasty league?
255.5d
joshlloyd48
100% (2) agree 
I know that, it's more so it allows him to be filtered in the rookies when you look at projections and rankings
255.5d
Grastuco
100% (1) agree 
I get that Embiid is in his rookie season, but he wasn't drafted in 2016.
Per Game
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364-0.94Projection 16-17PHISubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
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370.17NBA 16-17PHI3125.420.21.27.82.10.92.4.46613.8.7837.93.836.20.91-0.160.81-0.42-0.353.32-0.10-0.14-2.32
90.68Last 3 MonthsPHI526.624.41.49.22.81.63.2.50013.6.77012.24.638.11.620.101.34-0.121.524.790.74-0.61-3.26
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Per 36
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
DNQ-1.12Projection 16-17PHISubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
310.09NBA 16-17PHI3125.428.71.611.13.01.23.4.46619.6.78311.25.436.22.100.110.80-0.25-0.052.42-0.21-0.41-3.67
110.42Last 3 MonthsPHI526.633.01.912.53.82.24.3.50018.4.77016.56.238.12.920.331.120.071.253.310.52-1.13-4.65
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
Totals
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364-0.94Projection 16-17PHISubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
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201-0.48NBA 16-17PHI31786:0262736242662775.466429.78324411736.2-0.98-0.86-0.81-0.93-1.540.76-0.04-0.050.13
324-0.78Last 3 MonthsPHI5133:0012274614816.50068.770612338.1-1.88-1.20-1.65-1.20-1.86-0.420.08-0.121.23
RankValueNameTeamgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV

Game Log
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus
4/12/2017@ NYKL 113 - 114PHI               
4/10/2017INDL 111 - 119PHI               
4/8/2017MILL 82 - 90PHI               
4/6/2017CHIL 90 - 102PHI               
4/4/2017BKNL 118 - 141PHI               
4/2/2017@ TORL 105 - 113PHI               
3/31/2017@ CLEL 105 - 122PHI               
3/29/2017ATLL 92 - 99PHI               
3/28/2017@ BKNW 106 - 101PHI               
3/26/2017@ INDL 94 - 107PHI               
3/24/2017@ CHIW 117 - 107PHI               
3/22/2017@ OKCL 97 - 122PHI               
3/20/2017@ ORLL 109 - 112PHI               
3/19/2017BOSW 105 - 99PHI               
3/17/2017DALW 116 - 74PHI               
3/14/2017@ GSWL 104 - 106PHI               
3/12/2017@ LALW 118 - 116PHI               
3/11/2017@ LACL 100 - 112PHI               
3/9/2017@ PORL 108 - 114PHI               
3/6/2017MILL 98 - 112PHI               
3/4/2017DETL 106 - 136PHI               
3/3/2017NYKW 105 - 102PHI               
3/1/2017@ MIAL 98 - 125PHI               
2/27/2017GSWL 108 - 119PHI               
2/25/2017@ NYKL 109 - 110PHI               
2/24/2017WASW 120 - 112PHI               
2/15/2017@ BOSL 108 - 116PHI               
2/13/2017@ CHAW 105 - 99PHI               
2/11/2017MIAW 117 - 109PHI               
2/9/2017@ ORLW 112 - 111PHI               
2/8/2017SASL 103 - 111PHI               
2/6/2017@ DETL 96 - 113PHI               
2/4/2017@ MIAL 102 - 125PHI               
2/2/2017@ SASL 86 - 102PHI               
2/1/2017@ DALL 95 - 113PHI               
1/30/2017SACW 122 - 119PHI               
1/29/2017@ CHIL 108 - 121PHI               
1/27/2017HOUL 118 - 123Y1.89PHI28:103247432.550201.00065341.4 
1/25/2017@ MILW 114 - 109PHI               
1/24/2017LACW 121 - 110PHI               
1/21/2017@ ATLL 93 - 110PHI               
1/20/2017PORW 93 - 92Y-0.66PHI22:0418010504.50014.44495242.4
Will not return
He is being held out as a precaution with a left knee contusion.
1/18/2017TORW 94 - 89Y0.63PHI26:522629212.46213.857144538.3 
1/16/2017@ MILW 113 - 104Y0.81PHI27:5122112225.4449.722184331.9 
1/14/2017@ WASL 93 - 109PHI               
1/13/2017CHAW 102 - 93Y0.72PHI28:032408123.50012.857145536.7 
1/11/2017NYKW 98 - 97Y0.14PHI26:5421114111.35020.85771336.1
Available to return
It was his right foot that had the surgeries, while this sprain is his left ankle. He appears to be fine
1/8/2017@ BKNW 105 - 95Y0.09PHI23:592005402.57114.80053432.3 
1/6/2017@ BOSL 106 - 110Y0.62PHI25:532318302.500121.000104635.9 
1/3/2017MINW 93 - 91Y-0.12PHI29:492518312.40020.727113339.6 
12/30/2016@ DENW 124 - 122Y0.64PHI28:302316523.38513.857145635.7 
12/29/2016@ UTAL 83 - 100PHI               
12/26/2016@ SACL 100 - 102Y0.18PHI28:522518122.47117.88998544.2 
12/23/2016@ PHOL 116 - 123Y0.56PHI28:042717102.53315.909113334.6 
12/20/2016NORL 93 - 108Y-0.90PHI24:431106111.33312.60052530.0 
12/18/2016BKNW 108 - 107Y2.14PHI27:1933210123.70617.87583236.0 
12/16/2016LALL 89 - 100Y-1.51PHI28:311524202.35714.37583229.4 
12/14/2016TORL 114 - 123Y-0.41PHI27:01906512.5006.60054519.4 
12/11/2016@ DETW 97 - 79PHI               
12/8/2016@ NORW 99 - 88Y0.53PHI27:031407234.33315.80053333.6 
12/6/2016@ MEML 91 - 96PHI               
12/5/2016DENL 98 - 106Y-0.07PHI25:321614105.33315.83363333.0 
12/3/2016BOSL 106 - 107PHI               
12/2/2016ORLL 88 - 105Y0.58PHI26:5625310400.476211.00020335.4 
11/28/2016@ TORL 95 - 122PHI               
11/27/2016CLEL 108 - 112Y0.20PHI25:112239403.44418.60053239.8 
11/25/2016CHIL 89 - 105PHI               
11/23/2016MEML 99 - 104Y-0.24PHI27:1012111313.40010.75047531.0 
11/21/2016MIAW 101 - 94Y0.65PHI23:182215013.53813.77891236.8 
11/19/2016PHOW 120 - 105Y0.82PHI20:232637202.64314.83363441.4 
11/17/2016@ MINL 86 - 110Y-0.86PHI22:2610010001.4449.50042325.4 
11/16/2016WASW 109 - 102PHI               
11/14/2016@ HOUL 88 - 115Y-0.05PHI22:3113010112.600101.00016531.2 
11/12/2016@ ATLL 96 - 117PHI               
11/11/2016INDW 109 - 105Y-0.69PHI25:452517201.33318.857145349.7 
11/9/2016@ INDL 115 - 122PHI               
11/7/2016UTAL 84 - 109Y-0.81PHI19:121409011.5008.66795540.9 
11/5/2016CLEL 101 - 102Y1.01PHI25:152246214.538131.00046336.3 
11/2/2016@ CHAL 93 - 109PHI               
11/1/2016ORLL 101 - 103Y-0.05PHI24:5218010304.50012.66794236.3 
10/29/2016ATLL 72 - 104Y-0.08PHI15:281412112.5569.75043341.1 
10/26/2016OKCL 97 - 103Y-0.44PHI22:252017002.37516.87584447.1 
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus