Joel Embiid - PHI - C
Out - back to back - Projected Return 10/23/2017
TeamPHI
Age23.6
Draft2014 (Pick 3)
NBA Salary$6,100,266
Projection Updated10/19/2017
Analyst CommentIt's all about injury. First round talent, but how much can he play. He could be top 5 if he played 34 a night, but it isn't happening.

Related Articles (19)

3.3h
benron
75% (4) agree 
I was at the game last night. Embiid is still not in game shape but he is healthy. The problem last night was more due to Brown not running the offense through Embiid as they did last year. Simmons running the point, while effective at times, may not be the way to go. Embiid was barely a threat on the block and yet when he was or near the basket, good things happened. Brown needs to do a better job with his halfcourt sets and getting Embiid into the post more of the time. If this happens, Embiid will be more efficient along with getting more trips to the free throw line. I'd like to see if Simmons at the 4 may not be the better option at this point and sit Bayless in favor of either Fultz or T.J. Fultz can get anywhere he wants on the court and at times last night, created more space for other players down low.
3.6h
wjg22
100% (1) agree 
http://nba.nbcsports.com/2017/10/21/joel-embiid-frustrated-wants-more-post-touches-to-play-back-to-backs/ ----- Article is correct, somr of it on him for floating around the 3pt line so much. Part of it also I think due to Simmons attacking the rim. They didn't have this last year. Embiid needs to clear the way to make it difficult for his defender to help when Simmons decides to bully his defender 1 on 1. Brett Brown and his staff will eventually figure it out.
1.9d
benron
50% (2) agree 
For all of us Embiid owners......... http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/philadelphia-76ers-sixers-joel-embiid-back-to-back-games-20171019.html
1.9d
benron
100% (1) agree 
When it comes to managing your fantasy team, It's not always about looking strictly at numbers or blanket statements about a player's minutes or projected nights off. The better you get to know the circumstances of each team you have players on, the better you become at predicting when players rest or how rotations are manged. It's the Sixer's home opener vs a division rival. There is no way they would rest Embiid in a situation like that. Odds are always against a road team to win on the road the following night after a home game, especially when it's a home opener where they will be coming off a high and as an underdog. In this case, they are clearly better off resting Embiid Saturday.
1.9d
theboondocks
Well if you draft him and assume that very risk, so it's a headache you have to embrace until Philly says he's healthy enough to just play without restrictions
2.0d
Johnjclass101
0% (1) agree 
Here's the problem - If you're having to play him one night and rest him one night, doesn't it make more sense to rest him against the Celtics, and play him against Toronto? I feel like PHI could beat Toronto alot easier than they could beat the Celtics. The is the pain of owning Embiid, you can live with the resting him one night, but you don't always know which night.
2.0d
benron
No official confirmation yet but it's most likely he will early in the season. I would be very surprised if he played in Toronto on Saturday.
2.0d
big3
Is JoJo still gonna be resting back to backs?
2.0d
gehrenberg
33% (3) agree 
It depends if you are talking about a player somebody owns on their fantasy team
2.0d
benron
14% (7) agree 
I love commenting on players here. You could put out all the facts about a player and yet still get plenty to disagree simply because of bias or you could just offer an opinion that could be completely wrong yet have 100% agree. Is it always this fickle here?
2.1d
IrvDizzle
100% (1) agree 
what wjg22 said is correct. Philly completely overhauled their medical staff.
2.1d
gehrenberg
100% (1) agree 
It is possible. I was just speaking to what happened last year, but tbh I am not up on my training staff turnover haha
2.2d
wjg22
100% (3) agree 
Wasn't there a change at the helm of the medical staff for the team? I think they hired former head of FC Barcelona's sports science and medical dept.
2.2d
gehrenberg
67% (3) agree 
The let Embiid practice with a torn meniscus last year. They let Simmons practice before his foot was fully healed, which lead to an additional procedure last year and ultimately ended his season
2.2d
benron
50% (4) agree 
Couldn't disagree more. Especially since I'm in Philly, I'm a season ticket holder, and in-the-know when it comes to internal team information. Embiid is healthy. The only issue is his conditioning at this point due to 3 weeks of 5 on 5. While he is likely to rest back-to-back games early, the minutes are going to be there unless it's a blowout situation. Sixer's P.R. is the problem, not the medical staff.
2.2d
gehrenberg
0% (1) agree 
I expect him to rest. I also expected him to play less minutes last night. I also don’t like the nonsense of the Sixers medical staff
2.2d
Keno
100% (3) agree 
Can we still expect him to sit on back to backs? One coming up Fri/Sat, I don't expect him to play both games, right?
2.2d
benron
100% (2) agree 
Brown all but confirmed last night that they are backing off the minutes restriction terminology with Embiid this year. Embiid confirmed it as well during his post game. I expect to see him averaging closer to 25 minutes a night going forward over the next few months. If it was completely left up to Embiid, he would play 35 minutes a night right off the bat. What's important is that he's healthy and about 75% in game shape.
2.9d
Snoosnoo
Well he's already played 13 1st half minutes so he's either playing 3 minutes in the entire 2nd half or he's looking at 25+
3.2d
benron
100% (1) agree 
The intent is for a 16 minute restriction. Brett Brown also implied his minutes could change depending on the flow of the game. Brett Brown's track record with Embiid's minute restrictions have not been exactly firm in the past. He exceeded quite a few games last year in minutes in which he was suppose to play less. I watch all Sixer games and Brown tends to coach on feel of the game when it comes to his rotations. If Embiid plays tonight and things come easy for him as he approaches 16 minutes in a close game, I could see him getting closer to 20-22.
3.3d
dfreschl
100% (1) agree 
@Keno without the restriction there is no question. It's because of the restriction the question was posed
3.3d
Keno
As long as you know he is on a 16 minute time restriction.
3.3d
dfreschl
67% (3) agree 
Start him tonight over Taurean Prince? Leaning towards yes.
4.6d
TreborGrebtsev
Minutes in the teens to start the season, so only 20 ppg then ;)
4.7d
dewah07
didn't run fast enough, the minute restriction killed the offer haha
6.3d
ferris
50% (2) agree 
Dude, run. I guess I could see circumstances to hold Embiid but in a vacuum...
6.3d
dewah07
0% (2) agree 
12 team h2h. got offered butler/murray for the process/hood and i feel sick not running to click accept, i can't bring myself to do it. :(
8.2d
TreborGrebtsev
100% (1) agree 
Benron I don't get that logic. Points are no different from the other counting stats like reb/ass/stl/blk. And you don't draft Embiid for elite percentages.
8.2d
benron
0% (1) agree 
Would it make more sense to put him in a tank points build in weekly h2h leagues since his per game averages are insane and he will miss games. The way I see it, his missed games won't hurt as much because the points won't matter and you get a bump in turnovers when he doesn't play.
8.2d
Sephiroth_98
75% (4) agree 
But, your 90% heath percentage is not correct and should decrease depending on age and other factors. Injuries happen all the time. I say draft the potential and let the fluke situations play out. You can't always be the unlucky one???
8.2d
jonproud81
50% (6) agree 
The issue with your line of thought is that Embiid is let's say roughly 50% likely to play in the fantasy playoffs, whereas healthy-history player X has a 90-95% likelihood.
8.3d
gehrenberg
60% (5) agree 
The issue with this line of thought is that it assumes no other players can potentially miss playoff games as well. I’ll take my chances with the best players
8.3d
KOTUR
It depends on the league though, if the 4 games out of that 12 games he will miss is in the playoffs. You might not win your league.
8.3d
Joey_B
75% (4) agree 
I think this is the year that it all comes together for him. Take him in the 3rd round and don’t look back. If he plays 70 games you’ll win your league.
8.3d
gehrenberg
83% (6) agree 
He’s no where near his ceiling trade value. He legitimately has the upside to be the number one ranked player this year. I’m not saying it is likely, but that is his best case/ceiling scenario
8.5d
NeonChaos
11% (9) agree 
My Yahoo league does not have an IR spot. Should I just steer clear of Embiid in our draft, even if he's available in the 3rd or 4th round?
8.5d
TreborGrebtsev
33% (3) agree 
If he stays healthy for a couple of months now, I would say his trade value would rise significantly. Considering this his ceiling value would be banking on him to get injured again soon.
8.5d
dewah07
0% (1) agree 
Realistically speaking, how close after his monster game is embiid to his trade ceiling value?
9.8d
Houndie
0% (5) agree 
They are playing a team that wouldn't make the playoffs in New Zealand. And Saric would have to be picked right after him. :D
9.8d
#43089
88% (8) agree 
Too much risk
9.8d
ranma08
31% (16) agree 
1st round pick confirmed
9.8d
KOTUR
100% (4) agree 
#TTP
9.8d
gehrenberg
100% (5) agree 
The 150 million dollar man
10.9d
wjg22
100% (1) agree 
12T, 9 cat 4 keeper league. coming into the season with AD/Kyrie/CJMc/Embiid. ended up trading CJMc for MTurner + a pick swap in the middle rd. Was primarily for insurance against an Embiid inj during the season or rest during the the latter part of the season. more than likely going to end up punting a cat or 2 with 3 bigs +low assist guy in Kyrie but easier to manage the draft selections imo than had i not traded for Turner and Embiid goes down.
11.0d
biff_tannen
Agree with GDiama. You could still win your league if Embiid plays 60, but you sure as heck better nail your late round picks, or build a strong team that can work around any missed games from Embiid during playoffs. you certainly cant say that you are winning the league with him playing 60. now, with that said, I actually think he will be closer to the 70 range
11.1d
wjg22
100% (1) agree 
https://twitter.com/JCameratoNBCS/status/917792273575874562
11.5d
GDiama
80% (5) agree 
You cannot say you win your league with 60 games, because in H2H the most important thing is if he plays all games the last 3 weeks. 60 games is not a good sign that he is available for all those games. It actually means he might only play 8 out of last 11.
11.5d
Saltgurkan
0% (2) agree 
Took him at 30 in h2h 12 teamer. All in or nothing, if he gives me 60 games I've pretty much won my league. The guy who was on Lloyds podcast on the philly season preview episode sounded pretty optimistic. I recommend anyone who drafted Joel to listen to that episode to calm your neves e bit lol
11.9d
joshlloyd48
100% (1) agree 
it feels like a huge bargain
12.0d
theo156
100% (1) agree 
What about drafting him at 50 in 16-team roto leagues?
16.1d
byrdsong
100% (1) agree 
The script continues to write itself - finally doing 5 on 5 with contact. The hype machine will be revving up and his ADP will only rise into the start of the season. Certainly could be time for those that drafted him to feed on the FOMO of others and trade him for value above where he was drafted..
24.1d
nickerbr
88% (8) agree 
4 Player keeper league (9 Cat): Do I pull the trigger on trading Whiteside for Embiid? Can't help but be tantalized by the upside. (Keepers are Durant/Gobert/Wall/Whiteside right now)
25.7d
Cortmanwasdead
67% (3) agree 
@insideTheNba imo yes, much more reliable players with upside still and less injury concerns at that point in the draft.
25.7d
InsideTheNBA
100% (1) agree 
Is top 25 too early for him?
30.8d
joshlloyd48
100% (3) agree 
No, I don't believe so
30.8d
xer09
Panic mode for Embiid? Is this a "stay away" from Embiid territory?
30.9d
Yooona
Not cleared for 5-on-5 yet. http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/20768467/injured-philadelphia-76ers-center-joel-embiid-not-cleared-5-5-drills
40.1d
draftstreetking
0% (5) agree 
I read before the draft he had bone density issues from his nutrition growing up in Africa. To much of a risk for me.
40.1d
Johnjclass101
0% (1) agree 
At pick 30 if he plays 55 to 60 games youll get good value. If he shatters expectations by playing say 72 games, you could win your league by drafting him at 30. At that point youd have gotten top 5 to 7 value at a point where most guys were drafting fourth round picks. Still, the risk is real.
43.7d
xer09
100% (3) agree 
Just drafted him at pick # 30, hoping he plays atleast 60+ games (just finish listening to your Phi In Season Review podcast.. Good insight!! Thanks Josh!
Per Game
RankValueNameTeamConfgm/gp/g3/gr/ga/gs/gb/gfg%fga/gft%fta/gto/gUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
85-0.08NBA 17-18PHI 227.514.50.013.53.00.51.5.35515.51.0003.53.530.4-0.08-1.111.920.03-0.680.79-1.511.19-1.29
370.17NBA 16-17PHI 3125.420.21.27.82.10.92.4.46613.8.7837.93.836.20.91-0.160.81-0.42-0.353.32-0.10-0.14-2.32
90.68Last 3 MonthsPHI 526.624.41.49.22.81.63.2.50013.6.77012.24.638.11.620.101.34-0.121.524.790.74-0.61-3.26
RankValueNameTeamConfgm/gp/g3/gr/ga/gs/gb/gfg%fga/gft%fta/gto/gUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
131-0.21NBA Preseason 17PHI 214.713.50.07.02.00.01.0.3138.0.77311.00.535.80.42-1.241.10-0.26-1.540.82-1.77-0.441.04
Per 36
RankValueNameTeamConfgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
44-0.01NBA 17-18PHI 227.519.00.017.73.90.72.0.35520.31.0004.64.630.4-0.14-0.601.580.07-0.540.53-0.991.04-1.09
270.12NBA 16-17PHI 3125.428.71.611.13.01.23.4.46619.6.78311.25.436.22.100.080.80-0.26-0.082.41-0.18-0.30-3.53
70.42Last 3 MonthsPHI 526.633.01.912.53.82.24.3.50018.4.77016.56.238.12.940.291.110.050.943.300.49-0.91-4.46
RankValueNameTeamConfgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
DNQ-0.20NBA Preseason 17PHI 214.733.20.017.24.90.02.5.31319.7.77327.01.235.80.31-0.960.590.08-0.950.52-1.76-0.110.51
Totals
RankValueNameTeamConfgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
570.06NBA 17-18PHI 255.029027613.355311.0007730.40.17-1.142.460.18-0.571.12-1.681.45-1.44
201-0.48NBA 16-17PHI 31786.062736242662775.466429.78324411736.2-0.98-0.86-0.81-0.93-1.540.76-0.04-0.050.13
324-0.78Last 3 MonthsPHI 5133.012274614816.50068.770612338.1-1.88-1.20-1.65-1.20-1.86-0.420.08-0.121.23
RankValueNameTeamConfgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
298-0.55NBA Preseason 17PHI 229.327014402.31316.77322135.8-1.26-1.17-0.46-0.85-1.67-0.11-0.910.031.41

Game Log
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamConfminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus
10/20/2017BOSL 92 - 102Y-0.13PHI 28.011014312.250161.00033129.9 
10/18/2017@ WASL 115 - 120Y-0.03PHI 27.018013301.467151.00044230.9 
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamConfminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus
4/12/2017@ NYKL 113 - 114PHI                
4/10/2017INDL 111 - 119PHI                
4/8/2017MILL 82 - 90PHI                
4/6/2017CHIL 90 - 102PHI                
4/4/2017BKNL 118 - 141PHI                
4/2/2017@ TORL 105 - 113PHI                
3/31/2017@ CLEL 105 - 122PHI                
3/29/2017ATLL 92 - 99PHI                
3/28/2017@ BKNW 106 - 101PHI                
3/26/2017@ INDL 94 - 107PHI                
3/24/2017@ CHIW 117 - 107PHI                
3/22/2017@ OKCL 97 - 122PHI                
3/20/2017@ ORLL 109 - 112PHI                
3/19/2017BOSW 105 - 99PHI                
3/17/2017DALW 116 - 74PHI                
3/14/2017@ GSWL 104 - 106PHI                
3/12/2017@ LALW 118 - 116PHI                
3/11/2017@ LACL 100 - 112PHI                
3/9/2017@ PORL 108 - 114PHI                
3/6/2017MILL 98 - 112PHI                
3/4/2017DETL 106 - 136PHI                
3/3/2017NYKW 105 - 102PHI                
3/1/2017@ MIAL 98 - 125PHI                
2/27/2017GSWL 108 - 119PHI                
2/25/2017@ NYKL 109 - 110PHI                
2/24/2017WASW 120 - 112PHI                
2/15/2017@ BOSL 108 - 116PHI                
2/13/2017@ CHAW 105 - 99PHI                
2/11/2017MIAW 117 - 109PHI                
2/9/2017@ ORLW 112 - 111PHI                
2/8/2017SASL 103 - 111PHI                
2/6/2017@ DETL 96 - 113PHI                
2/4/2017@ MIAL 102 - 125PHI                
2/2/2017@ SASL 86 - 102PHI                
2/1/2017@ DALL 95 - 113PHI                
1/30/2017SACW 122 - 119PHI                
1/29/2017@ CHIL 108 - 121PHI                
1/27/2017HOUL 118 - 123Y1.89PHI 28.23247432.550201.00065341.4 
1/25/2017@ MILW 114 - 109PHI                
1/24/2017LACW 121 - 110PHI                
1/21/2017@ ATLL 93 - 110PHI                
1/20/2017PORW 93 - 92Y-0.66PHI 22.118010504.50014.44495242.4 
1/18/2017TORW 94 - 89Y0.63PHI 26.92629212.46213.857144538.3 
1/16/2017@ MILW 113 - 104Y0.81PHI 27.922112225.4449.722184331.9 
1/14/2017@ WASL 93 - 109PHI                
1/13/2017CHAW 102 - 93Y0.72PHI 28.12408123.50012.857145536.7 
1/11/2017NYKW 98 - 97Y0.14PHI 26.921114111.35020.85771336.1 
1/8/2017@ BKNW 105 - 95Y0.10PHI 24.02005402.57114.80053432.3 
1/6/2017@ BOSL 106 - 110Y0.62PHI 25.92318302.500121.000104635.9 
1/3/2017MINW 93 - 91Y-0.12PHI 29.82518312.40020.727113339.6 
12/30/2016@ DENW 124 - 122Y0.64PHI 28.52316523.38513.857145635.7 
12/29/2016@ UTAL 83 - 100PHI                
12/26/2016@ SACL 100 - 102Y0.18PHI 28.92518122.47117.88998544.2 
12/23/2016@ PHOL 116 - 123Y0.56PHI 28.12717102.53315.909113334.6 
12/20/2016NORL 93 - 108Y-0.90PHI 24.71106111.33312.60052530.0 
12/18/2016BKNW 108 - 107Y2.14PHI 27.333210123.70617.87583236.0 
12/16/2016LALL 89 - 100Y-1.51PHI 28.51524202.35714.37583229.4 
12/14/2016TORL 114 - 123Y-0.41PHI 27.0906512.5006.60054519.4 
12/11/2016@ DETW 97 - 79PHI                
12/8/2016@ NORW 99 - 88Y0.53PHI 27.11407234.33315.80053333.6 
12/6/2016@ MEML 91 - 96PHI                
12/5/2016DENL 98 - 106Y-0.07PHI 25.51614105.33315.83363333.0 
12/3/2016BOSL 106 - 107PHI                
12/2/2016ORLL 88 - 105Y0.58PHI 26.925310400.476211.00020335.4 
11/28/2016@ TORL 95 - 122PHI                
11/27/2016CLEL 108 - 112Y0.20PHI 25.22239403.44418.60053239.8 
11/25/2016CHIL 89 - 105PHI                
11/23/2016MEML 99 - 104Y-0.24PHI 27.212111313.40010.75047531.0 
11/21/2016MIAW 101 - 94Y0.65PHI 23.32215013.53813.77891236.8 
11/19/2016PHOW 120 - 105Y0.82PHI 20.42637202.64314.83363441.4 
11/17/2016@ MINL 86 - 110Y-0.86PHI 22.410010001.4449.50042325.4 
11/16/2016WASW 109 - 102PHI                
11/14/2016@ HOUL 88 - 115Y-0.05PHI 22.513010112.600101.00016531.2 
11/12/2016@ ATLL 96 - 117PHI                
11/11/2016INDW 109 - 105Y-0.69PHI 25.82517201.33318.857145349.7 
11/9/2016@ INDL 115 - 122PHI                
11/7/2016UTAL 84 - 109Y-0.81PHI 19.21409011.5008.66795540.9 
11/5/2016CLEL 101 - 102Y1.01PHI 25.32246214.538131.00046336.3 
11/2/2016@ CHAL 93 - 109PHI                
11/1/2016ORLL 101 - 103Y-0.05PHI 24.918010304.50012.66794236.3 
10/29/2016ATLL 72 - 104Y-0.08PHI 15.51412112.5569.75043341.1 
10/26/2016OKCL 97 - 103Y-0.44PHI 22.42017002.37516.87584447.1