Monta Ellis - IND - G

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TeamIND
Age31
Draft2005 (Pick 40)
NBA Salary$10,763,500
Projection Updated4/24/2017

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64.5d ago Open link
Starting Starting Sunday vs PHI
With CJ Miles off the bench
150.5d ago Open link
Off the Bench Off the Bench Friday vs CHI
Ellis come off the bench again Friday vs CHI and play limited minutes.
152.3d ago Open link
Playing Playing Wednesday @WAS (sore groin)
He'll come off the bench in his return, and he'll have a minutes restriction of about 20 minutes. The Pacers plan on bringing him back slowly and likely off the bench for at least a few games.
158.4d ago Open link
Injured Injured (sore groin)
Ellis remains out and will be re-evaluated in two weeks.
160.3d ago Open link
Injured Injured (sore groin)
Ellis will be out for "a few more games" according to coach McMillan.
161.4d ago Open link
Out Out Monday vs WAS (sore groin)
Ellis is out for the next 2 games, Monday vs WAS and Tuesday at NYK. He will not travel for Tuesday's game.
168.4d ago Open link
Out Out Monday vs CHA (sore groin)
Ellis is out for the next 4 games and will then be re-evaluated. He's out Monday and also won't travel on the team's upcoming 3-game road trip.
170.2d ago Open link
Will not return Will not return Saturday vs POR (sore groin)
Ellis will not play in the second half.
196.3d ago Open link
Starting Starting Monday vs ORL
Ellis is starting Monday vs ORL.
198.3d ago Open link
Starting Starting Saturday vs BOS
Ellis is starting Saturday vs BOS.
199.3d ago Open link
Off the Bench Off the Bench Friday @PHI
Ellis is coming off the bench Friday at PHI.
61.2d
gehrenberg
There's a difference between playing teams like the nuggets and Sixers as opposed to today when he played the Grizzlies. Not saying he needs to be owned or anything. But he can be streamed/rostered for favorable matchups
61.2d
brendans
100% (2) agree 
"back"?
61.2d
Thrillard45
Fudgeeee just when we thought he was back to consistency
62.2d
chillPenguin
@richg24 I'd say yes, especially if you are looking to pick up some steals. He's finally coming around with those.
62.3d
richg24
starting to play well. worth an add with 3 games left after tonight?
95.5d
winkle22
0% (3) agree 
If PG13 is moved to Boston what does this do for Monta? Does he have it all, again?
103.0d
brianrast
50% (2) agree 
Time for a projection update. m/g is too low, p/g too low, a/g too low for sure. Yes I know Thaddeus is coming back soon - I still believe what I'm saying is true.
103.1d
dishinNswishin
0% (2) agree 
Has been not terrible lately...worth a look (up) or fools gold (down) ? Would be dropping Brogdon.
128.1d
funtasy
33% (3) agree 
Sign of life?
144.4d
joshlloyd48
Monta Ellis doesn't have a minutes restriction, but don't get sucked in. He didn't have a minutes restriction last game, played just 20 minutes. This is more likely his role moving forward.
148.6d
away0921
100% (1) agree 
I'd much rather have Smart and Marvin Williams than Monta.
148.6d
buckgawd
50% (2) agree 
Worth a hold on 12 team leagues? Would drop either Smart or MarvinWill for him
152.3d
sell1010234
0% (6) agree 
Drop Danny Green or DeMarre for Monta?
165.9d
webslinger48
One possibility for Ellis is Sacramento. Indiana has rumored interest in Rudy Gay and such a trade would restore him as a top offensive option.
169.3d
HitmanSteph
Drop Monta Ellis for Josh Richardson. Projections seem to favor Richardson. Points league.
171.1d
webslinger48
100% (2) agree 
His only hope is to get traded to an offensively-starved team such as ORL who has rumored interest. He's a bad fit for IND's roster and is definitely getting difficult to hold in standards.
176.5d
kthumm90
100% (4) agree 
Is he droppable ? 10 teamer
Per Game
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/g3/gr/ga/gs/gb/gfg%fga/gft%fta/gto/gUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
208-0.16Projection 16-17INDSubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/g3/gr/ga/gs/gb/gfg%fga/gft%fta/gto/gUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
220-0.47NBA 16-17IND7826.68.40.62.73.11.00.4.4427.4.7291.71.816.6-1.11-0.81-1.140.020.01-0.57-0.36-0.26-0.03
212-0.46Last 2 MonthsIND1425.86.40.52.62.41.40.6.3966.5.6251.11.515.3-1.45-0.90-1.18-0.320.89-0.17-0.87-0.490.30
219-0.49Last 3 MonthsIND2925.68.60.72.52.71.10.3.4428.0.5901.31.718.6-1.06-0.65-1.20-0.180.33-0.60-0.39-0.700.08
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/g3/gr/ga/gs/gb/gfg%fga/gft%fta/gto/gUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
72-0.06NBA 15-16IND8133.813.81.13.44.71.80.5.42712.6.7862.52.521.1-0.07-0.02-0.970.761.87-0.38-0.920.08-0.87
640.00NBA 14-15DAL8033.718.91.02.44.11.90.3.44516.9.7523.82.527.61.040.01-1.280.561.98-0.61-0.57-0.21-0.95
610.01NBA 13-14DAL8236.919.00.83.65.71.70.3.45115.6.7885.23.226.10.94-0.27-0.751.221.61-0.64-0.430.16-1.77
Per 36
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
DNQ-0.18Projection 16-17INDSubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
288-0.44NBA 16-17IND7826.611.30.83.64.21.40.5.44210.0.7292.32.416.6-1.26-0.66-0.900.250.15-0.53-0.40-0.23-0.34
262-0.46Last 2 MonthsIND1425.88.90.73.63.31.90.8.3969.1.6251.62.115.3-1.73-0.74-0.92-0.140.89-0.22-0.85-0.470.01
267-0.44Last 3 MonthsIND2925.612.11.03.53.71.60.5.44211.3.5901.92.418.6-1.11-0.46-0.930.050.47-0.53-0.44-0.73-0.30
RankValueNameTeamgm/gp/363/36r/36a/36s/36b/36fg%fga/36ft%fta/36to/36USGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
168-0.23NBA 15-16IND8133.814.81.13.65.02.00.5.42713.4.7862.72.721.1-0.53-0.06-1.280.740.78-0.59-0.720.19-0.63
95-0.12NBA 14-15DAL8033.720.21.12.54.42.00.3.44518.1.7524.02.627.60.66-0.20-1.380.411.30-0.51-0.40-0.21-0.72
158-0.21NBA 13-14DAL8236.918.60.83.55.61.70.3.45115.2.7885.13.126.10.44-0.39-1.141.070.62-0.84-0.530.22-1.35
Totals
RankValueNameTeamgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
208-0.16Projection 16-17INDSubscribe now to view 2016-17 Projection
RankValueNameTeamgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
187-0.43NBA 16-17IND782073:14652452102427928.442577.72913313916.6-0.98-0.74-1.050.030.04-0.53-0.37-0.25-0.05
164-0.39Last 2 MonthsIND14360:398973633198.39691.625162115.3-0.97-0.70-0.97-0.290.53-0.13-0.71-0.410.17
180-0.42Last 3 MonthsIND29742:262502173773310.442233.590394918.6-0.78-0.49-1.11-0.130.36-0.57-0.41-0.63-0.04
RankValueNameTeamgminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatoUSGpV3VrVaVsVbVfg%Vft%VtoV
510.05NBA 15-16IND812734:581,1218727238214938.4271,021.78620620321.10.250.09-0.781.002.25-0.28-0.950.07-1.20
450.13NBA 14-15DAL802699:141,5138119032914825.4451,354.75230319827.61.610.13-1.040.782.34-0.51-0.62-0.22-1.33
410.14NBA 13-14DAL823022:361,5606929547114123.4511,278.78843026426.11.35-0.11-0.601.642.09-0.57-0.490.25-2.30

Game Log
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus
4/23/2017CLEL 102 - 106-1.47IND5:30101000.0002.50021028.1 
4/20/2017CLEL 114 - 119-0.36IND17:53811101.50061.00010314.7 
4/17/2017@ CLEL 111 - 117Y-0.79IND24:32202310.2504.0000108.8 
4/15/2017@ CLEL 108 - 109Y-0.28IND27:361114110.50081.00022218.1 
4/12/2017ATLW 104 - 86Y-1.08IND23:40000110.0004.0000028.0 
4/10/2017@ PHIW 119 - 111Y-0.67IND26:26203510.3333.0000238.4 
4/8/2017@ ORLW 127 - 112Y-0.82IND24:58511510.4005.00004215.9 
4/6/2017MILW 104 - 89Y0.11IND24:09811151.5006.25042117.9 
4/4/2017TORW 108 - 90Y0.47IND22:541014122.50081.00011218.3 
4/2/2017@ CLEL 130 - 135Y-0.53IND35:51716300.3758.00000210.3 
3/31/2017@ TORL 100 - 111Y-0.85IND32:38402430.18211.00003218.4 
3/29/2017@ MEML 97 - 110Y-0.93IND32:24203102.2005.00002110.1 
3/28/2017MINL 114 - 115Y0.80IND34:061904521.72711.75042318.7 
3/26/2017PHIW 107 - 94Y-0.11IND28:021014221.40010.50021118.1 
3/24/2017DENL 117 - 1250.63IND30:391734110.70010.00000213.8 
3/22/2017@ BOSL 100 - 109-0.91IND24:43514220.20010.00003123.0 
3/20/2017UTAW 107 - 100-0.08IND24:541212320.45511.50020221.7 
3/19/2017@ TORL 91 - 116-0.56IND25:081001320.36411.66731024.2 
3/15/2017CHAW 98 - 770.54IND26:391621212.53813.00000325.1 
3/14/2017@ NYKL 81 - 870.06IND25:14903330.400101.00011319.9 
3/12/2017MIAW 102 - 98-1.12IND19:00611200.3336.50021118.9 
3/10/2017@ MILL 85 - 99-1.00IND27:301202100.5717.66762519.4 
3/8/2017DETW 115 - 98-0.38IND22:121220300.5569.00001121.6 
3/6/2017@ CHAL 88 - 100-0.71IND25:561212300.500101.00013225.2 
3/5/2017@ ATLW 97 - 96-1.51IND22:15313310.1676.00023121.1 
3/1/2017@ SASL 99 - 100-0.89IND23:381103220.5569.25043225.1 
2/27/2017@ HOUW 117 - 108-0.42IND32:151207800.7508.00006417.9 
2/25/2017@ MIAL 95 - 113-1.17IND27:20803500.250121.00022223.6 
2/24/2017MEMW 102 - 92-0.08IND24:241621300.70010.00002224.1 
2/16/2017WASL 98 - 111-0.41IND30:41903700.5717.50020012.2 
2/15/2017@ CLEL 104 - 1130.27IND31:011422710.7508.00003116.4 
2/13/2017SASL 106 - 110-0.43IND30:251012420.40010.50022220.1 
2/11/2017MILL 100 - 116-0.15IND31:481814102.70010.75045425.9 
2/10/2017@ WASL 107 - 112-0.49IND27:56801800.4449.00000414.1 
2/8/2017CLEL 117 - 1320.33IND24:001312310.71471.00020215.1 
2/6/2017OKCW 93 - 90-0.98IND22:21202410.3333.0002027.7 
2/4/2017DETW 105 - 84-1.05IND23:49305210.1676.50021315.3 
2/3/2017@ BKNW 106 - 97-0.63IND25:17906220.3758.60052120.1 
2/1/2017@ ORLW 98 - 88-1.17IND20:37002400.0003.0000129.3 
1/29/2017HOUW 120 - 101-1.11IND15:51002500.0003.00001211.1 
1/27/2017SACW 115 - 111-0.24IND15:358101011.00031.00011114.3 
1/26/2017@ MINW 109 - 103-1.82IND14:00001000.0006.00002225.6 
1/23/2017NYKL 103 - 109-1.02IND24:01603300.16761.00042018.1 
1/21/2017@ UTAL 100 - 1090.00IND33:291524120.60010.50023320.1 
1/20/2017@ LALL 96 - 108-0.50IND23:41102411.0001.5002023.3 
1/18/2017@ SACW 106 - 100-1.09IND28:55204320.1676.00013215.5 
1/16/2017NORW 98 - 95-0.38IND18:40201411.5002.0000127.3 
1/12/2017@ DENL 112 - 140-0.16IND26:501202120.44491.00042019.5 
1/7/2017NYKW 123 - 109-0.63IND20:31912200.40051.00042016.9 
1/5/2017BKNW 121 - 109-1.12IND20:51201100.3333.0000128.5 
1/3/2017@ DETW 121 - 1160.00IND20:2916013001.0006.80051122.5 
1/1/2017ORLW 117 - 1040.02IND15:44404411.6673.0000008.4 
12/30/2016CHIW 111 - 101-0.33IND13:22201120.5002.0000017.0 
12/28/2016@ WASL 105 - 111-1.15IND17:42401100.20051.00021417.5 
12/26/2016@ CHIL 85 - 90IND               
12/22/2016BOSL 102 - 109IND               
12/20/2016@ NYKL 111 - 118IND               
12/19/2016WASW 107 - 105IND               
12/17/2016@ DETW 105 - 90IND               
12/15/2016@ NORL 95 - 102IND               
12/14/2016@ MIAL 89 - 95IND               
12/12/2016CHAW 110 - 94IND               
12/10/2016PORW 118 - 111Y-0.33IND18:401000500.6673.85770114.2
Will not return
Ellis will not play in the second half.
12/9/2016@ DALL 103 - 111Y-1.46IND22:13002200.0005.00001314.0 
12/7/2016@ PHOW 109 - 94Y-0.91IND22:27514100.25041.00022113.1 
12/5/2016@ GSWL 106 - 142Y-0.22IND28:21901220.60051.00033314.1 
12/4/2016@ LACW 111 - 102Y-0.28IND35:141404110.45511.80050017.1 
11/30/2016@ PORL 109 - 131Y-1.17IND25:09401300.20051.00022214.4 
11/27/2016LACW 91 - 70Y-0.83IND35:19516211.16712.00001316.2 
11/25/2016BKNW 118 - 97Y0.68IND26:0714233101.0006.00000310.2 
11/23/2016ATLL 85 - 96Y-0.32IND33:481923310.50016.50023225.5 
11/21/2016GSWL 83 - 120Y-1.34IND23:19512101.2508.00004320.6 
11/20/2016@ OKCW 115 - 111Y-0.49IND41:421214720.500101.00018218.6 
11/18/2016PHOL 96 - 116Y-0.25IND33:47903421.200101.00052218.8 
11/16/2016CLEW 103 - 93Y0.92IND34:30716415.5006.0000129.7 
11/14/2016ORLW 88 - 69Y-0.42IND36:221302201.545111.00012317.3 
11/12/2016BOSL 99 - 105Y-0.53IND34:251514411.50010.57173420.2 
11/11/2016@ PHIL 105 - 1090.71IND36:181906540.421191.00032229.5 
11/9/2016PHIW 122 - 115Y-0.91IND39:30915310.4449.00006317.3 
11/7/2016@ CHAL 100 - 122Y-0.81IND17:26710000.7504.00002514.3 
11/5/2016CHIW 111 - 94Y0.15IND32:23207820.5002.0000114.4 
11/3/2016@ MILL 107 - 125Y0.58IND33:396031030.50041.0002117.3 
11/1/2016LALW 115 - 108Y-0.23IND37:591722302.42914.75042219.3 
10/29/2016@ CHIL 101 - 118Y-1.42IND27:36202500.1676.00003014.9 
10/28/2016@ BKNL 94 - 103Y-0.78IND32:571102420.41712.50024520.6 
10/26/2016DALW 130 - 121Y1.19IND44:011917730.636111.00043315.3 
DateOppSummaryStartValueTeamminpts3rebaststlblkfg%fgaft%ftatopfUSGStatus
4/13/2016@ MILW 97 - 92IND               
4/12/2016NYKW 102 - 90Y-0.27IND24:16810330.4297.50022019.3 
4/10/2016BKNW 129 - 105Y0.01IND21:41621320.4005.0000039.3 
4/8/2016@ TORL 98 - 111Y0.03IND28:461703410.50014.75040325.7 
4/6/2016CLEW 123 - 109Y-0.19IND32:361316810.45511.66733221.5 
4/3/2016@ NYKW 92 - 87Y-1.03IND29:39716200.182111.00021119.3 
4/2/2016@ PHIW 115 - 102Y-0.03IND26:011202610.500101.00021320.3 
3/31/2016ORLL 94 - 114Y-0.81IND27:441313101.455111.00025125.2 
3/29/2016CHIL 96 - 98Y0.00IND31:30805431.250121.00021119.0 
3/27/2016HOUW 104 - 101Y1.19IND34:132316731.55618.66732227.8 
3/26/2016@ BKNL 110 - 120Y-1.11IND32:13310600.2504.0000349.5 
3/24/2016NORW 92 - 84Y0.10IND31:53914431.250121.00021220.9 
3/21/2016PHIW 91 - 75Y0.15IND32:501333520.41712.00002120.0 
3/19/2016OKCL 111 - 115Y0.26IND42:281126730.400101.00014515.2 
3/17/2016TORL 94 - 101Y-0.15IND42:47807740.27311.50042315.7 
3/15/2016BOSW 103 - 98Y0.30IND33:501627620.417121.00044222.7 
3/13/2016@ ATLL 75 - 104Y-0.54IND24:391013410.4449.50022221.4 
3/12/2016@ DALW 112 - 105Y0.89IND36:311705731.538131.00033320.9 
3/7/2016SASW 99 - 91Y1.13IND37:192621312.615131.00083325.4 
3/5/2016@ WASW 100 - 99Y0.71IND38:101716440.40020.00000224.4 
3/4/2016@ CHAL 101 - 108Y-0.36IND36:551513420.33315.80052422.7 
3/2/2016@ MILW 104 - 99Y-0.09IND36:261014620.40010.50021214.7 
2/29/2016@ CLEL 96 - 100Y0.18IND35:122821210.47621.85772236.4 
2/28/2016PORL 102 - 111Y0.58IND34:201815531.353171.00052326.6 
2/26/2016CHAL 95 - 96Y-0.93IND41:251406200.308131.00064120.7 
2/24/2016NYKW 108 - 105Y0.75IND35:49828721.5006.0000128.8 
2/22/2016@ MIAL 93 - 101Y-1.35IND40:47704311.11817.75040221.1 
2/21/2016@ ORLW 105 - 102Y0.71IND38:492154321.47117.00003421.9 
2/19/2016@ OKCW 101 - 98Y0.83IND38:262732330.62516.57172223.9 
2/10/2016CHAL 95 - 117Y-0.12IND37:141001410.5569.00000310.6 
2/8/2016LALW 89 - 87Y-0.18IND32:41804230.33391.00022116.0 
2/6/2016DETW 112 - 104Y-0.06IND33:13806511.42971.00022113.7 
2/5/2016@ ATLL 96 - 102Y-0.23IND34:331133131.30813.00004220.4 
2/3/2016@ BKNW 114 - 100Y-0.17IND30:371116510.7147.00005216.9 
2/1/2016CLEL 106 - 111Y-1.28IND41:011412520.27818.75046427.0 
1/30/2016DENW 109 - 105Y1.02IND41:283249630.46428.66734135.2 
1/28/2016ATLW 111 - 92Y2.65IND34:422555651.636111.00062019.7 
1/26/2016LACL 89 - 91Y-0.88IND37:32604520.25012.00003217.1 
1/23/2016@ SACL 97 - 108Y0.29IND34:571622710.70010.00012215.8 
1/22/2016@ GSWL 110 - 122Y0.13IND24:481813311.57114.50022327.0 
1/19/2016@ PHOW 97 - 94Y-0.20IND30:582003320.368191.00063134.1 
1/17/2016@ DENL 126 - 129Y-0.07IND31:552422511.58817.40054431.7 
1/15/2016WASL 104 - 118Y-0.04IND37:161703311.50014.60050119.6 
1/13/2016@ BOSL 94 - 103Y-1.23IND34:401201410.37516.00005223.9 
1/12/2016PHOW 116 - 97Y0.27IND34:131410740.42914.50022122.5 
1/10/2016@ HOUL 103 - 107Y-0.21IND38:4811121310.45511.00004218.3 
1/8/2016@ NORW 91 - 86Y-0.60IND33:381004811.45511.00006321.1 
1/6/2016@ ORLW 95 - 86Y0.77IND35:201914740.462131.00065327.0 
1/4/2016@ MIAL 100 - 103Y-0.25IND41:031713900.47117.00011220.5 
1/2/2016DETW 94 - 82Y0.21IND33:391413312.357141.00030121.8 
12/31/2015MILL 116 - 120Y-0.68IND32:411300712.5569.75048524.1 
12/30/2015@ CHIL 100 - 102Y-0.97IND35:251311520.211191.00043329.7 
12/28/2015ATLW 93 - 87Y0.85IND36:152643221.500201.00023029.0 
12/26/2015@ MINW 102 - 88Y-0.02IND36:012216310.533151.00056028.5 
12/23/2015SACL 106 - 108Y0.95IND37:182132630.61513.50041218.8 
12/21/2015@ SASL 92 - 106Y-0.59IND28:45603601.30010.00000215.0 
12/19/2015@ MEML 84 - 96Y0.06IND37:491302121.50012.50020015.6 
12/18/2015BKNW 104 - 97Y-0.86IND34:05201520.1258.00001311.4 
12/16/2015DALW 107 - 81Y0.65IND32:491932321.412171.00020224.8 
12/14/2015TORW 106 - 90Y0.20IND30:281812130.467151.00033128.9 
12/12/2015@ DETL 96 - 118Y-0.59IND24:221111321.40010.50043327.9 
12/11/2015MIAW 96 - 83Y2.10IND36:042444660.55618.00002425.0 
12/8/2015GSWL 123 - 131Y-1.22IND38:08902511.36411.50026217.7 
12/5/2015@ UTAL 119 - 122Y-1.12IND30:42601411.182111.00023420.6 
12/3/2015@ PORL 111 - 123Y-0.75IND17:592002001.0001.0000012.4 
12/2/2015@ LACW 103 - 91Y0.19IND34:021004121.50081.00021112.9 
11/29/2015@ LALW 107 - 103Y0.14IND36:241513601.71471.00044114.7 
11/27/2015CHIW 104 - 92Y0.15IND30:051405530.38513.66760022.3 
11/24/2015@ WASW 123 - 106Y-1.07IND35:161005510.4449.50045319.6 
11/21/2015MILW 123 - 86Y-0.04IND30:171215521.5569.33333218.5 
11/18/2015@ PHIW 112 - 85Y0.02IND26:37713922.4297.00005117.8 
11/16/2015@ CHIL 95 - 96Y0.01IND35:552004611.450201.00023528.8 
11/13/2015MINW 107 - 103Y0.96IND36:512413521.64717.50022224.0 
11/11/2015@ BOSW 102 - 91Y0.33IND35:021312640.4449.66762316.8 
11/9/2015ORLW 97 - 84Y-1.01IND33:27204420.1119.00002115.2 
11/8/2015@ CLEL 97 - 101Y0.83IND34:272525310.58817.75040225.0 
11/6/2015MIAW 90 - 87Y-0.85IND36:27404810.2508.00003114.3 
11/4/2015BOSW 100 - 98Y-0.41IND33:281315810.333151.00023223.2 
11/3/2015@ DETW 94 - 82Y0.00IND33:251513330.43816.00003425.1 
10/31/2015UTAL 76 - 97Y-0.26IND32:051204322.357141.00024127.4 
10/29/2015MEML 103 - 112Y-1.63IND32:16912300.25012.66734324.0 
10/28/2015@ TORL 99 - 106Y-0.74IND28:32900620.27311.75042421.8