Nikola Jokic - DEN - C

Thanks to BBM and the BBM Friends, I have just won both my competitive leagues. Jokic was a huge part in my run. Thanks for keeping all the players up to date daily. I've never made it past the first round of the playoffs til this year when I finally signed up with BBM. I am so grateful/thankful that I joined. It did not disappoint me when I need BBM the most and will be back for sure next season. I can't wait til next season. Til then my BBM Friends :)

Holy moly

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Yeah I'm with you, I just don't ever recall seeing the tag until now. Thought it might have been in relation to something current.

Yes. I never once doubted his ability, I doubted what Malone was going to do with he and Nurkic and that's why he was risky. I stated it at least 20 times in offseason that if he got 32 minutes he'd be a top 15 player, but we just didn't know what Malone was going to do.

Risky tag? Eh?

He's in!!!

On a back to back schedule, you'd think he'd give it a go tonight and possibly rest tomorrow. With the trip to Sacramento the Nuggets "should" win without him. They'll need him tonight vs the Celtics.

@ksaint, Nah, the worst league of all time

This guy destroying my Playoffs :/

Got Jokic and got rid of Parsons a few months back, greatest trade of all time?

Back 2 back triple doubles! 1st round next year.

Finally busted out of his slump, was gonna trade him for Josh Richardson :)

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Tantric Jokic is almost too much to handle...

Need help... Wall, Ariza, zubac (up) or jokiv, murray,kieff (down)

Trolled by a dude that most likely wears tube socks with Jordan slides... Scoobydoo yourself a favor and move out of moms basement, "bro"

Cool story bro

10 category league, 10 team... Used this website: G: CP3, Jrue, Rubio, Bradley, Beverly, Middleton, Collison F: Jokic, Porter, RoCo, Aminu, Frye (traded Melo to get Otto) C: Whiteside, Gortat, Valanciunas Jokic, Jrue and RoCo have carried me down the stretch.

He just turned 22.

Of course he will. Only 21 and crazy talented. Just seems most are quick to blame Malone every single time he has a bad game or doesn't get big minutes. He doesn't deserve them tonight...plain and simple..and he really didn't last night either.

Teams are staying glued to cutters and he isn't driving he's forcing the pass. His defense is good when his offense is rolling. Just in a funk. He'll figure it out.

You mean this isn't Malone's fault? That sometimes Jokic is actually to blame when he has a bad game or gets less minutes? What a concept.

Seems to be in a mood again tonight - moaning at officials, taking stupid fouls and deliberately passing out of shooting opportunities. Saw a quote from him saying he was tired, maybe he needs a few games off?

Yes, I was joking. It was absolutely confounding last night that Cauley went off like that while Malone decided to limit Jokic like he did earlier in the season. Still, the Free WIllie bandwagon appears open for business!

Webslinger I hope you were just joking (no pun intended) and that the downvoters were trolling. Hopefully you guys didn't convince someone to actually drop Jokic for WCS.

Oh, definitely Cauley-Stein. /s

Up for Jokic, down for Cauley-Stein.

He was still +4 and crappy Plumlee was -22 or something in similar minutes. It's so stupid, who cares what his defense is like if the team is still winning and much better with him on the court. That's all that really matters. His real plus minus is like 14th in the entire NBA. Clearly he is a super positive player. People are too hung up on this when the results say otherwise and Malone is a dumbshit

He got Malone'd. Malone blasted him for his defense after the game. Like anybody on the entire roster is a good defender (minus Harris). Malone needs to realize that their defense isn't going to win them games. Their offense is going to win them games.

haha what happened

Not sure whats going on with the minutes but he has been fairly passive with all the veterans back.

Can someone who is watching the game talk about what's happening with the rotations? looks like Jokic only slated to play 12 in the first half?

Sorry guys, should have been more specific. Harrison Barnes.

which Barnes?

@charlie_brown102 LBJ is going, at some point, to get plenty of precautionary DNP-CD, more so after what happened to K. Love so overall I think you made the right move bro.

I'm the guy who traded my Jokic for Brook Lopez way back in the season, when the projections were heavily in BroLo's favor. I'm pleased to announce I've got him back with the following deal. How did I do? UP: LBJ + Tyreke ---- DOWN: Jokic + Barnes

I hate the all-star break. I can't deal without life's anesthetic for a whole week!

Let's also not forget that MIN is one of the few teams that essentially trots out 2 centers in Towns and Dieng. Malone was probably just matching the size that Dieng brings to the PF spot. I'm not too worried about it happening again once everyone is healthy.

@johnnyuhimself, imo Faried who started with Jokic at some parts is more of a center rather than a "pf" because of the lack of range. Plumlee is in the same mold with Faried but with better vision. So, I don't think it will mess Jokic in any sense.

It's pretty crazy that this is about his floor for a single game

Hell of a line for playing his worst game in a long time...

The Nuggets are without Chandler, Faried, Gallinari, Arthur, I don't think Plumlee will start at PF moving forward.

does anybody else have concern that jokic and plumlee are starting next to each other? Two centers? It makes jokic into a stretch forward which isn't his natural position. And having plumlee on the floor clogs the middle/high post and eliminates the back door cuts and curls.

First time he has shot below 40%...wait, 45%...wait, 47% in almost three months. Even in shiteness there is evidence of his Godliness.

PER-wise, Nikola Jokic is having the best season ever by a European player not named Dirk Nowitzki. Nikola Jokic’s PER is at 26.8. It’s the sixth-best mark for a sophomore in NBA history.

Joe Lacob/Bob Meyers here, trying to stay lightyears ahead. Considering scrapping it and rebuilding around Jokic? Trade it all for Jokic (UP) Keep current pieces he just slaughtered (Down)

Joki all day every day...

Jokic for Wall is whatever, but it's going to boil down to whether you want a top PG instead of a PF/C. Plumlee is not going to affect Jokic's touches and I'd be surprised if they share the court for a non-trivial amount. If you watch the Denver's bench play, you realize that they sorely needed a C that can help facilitate on offense. (Nurkic was a TO/Blackhole and watching Barton run half-court sets...lol) There hasn't been a noticeable difference in USG with Galo out, check the logs (galo's USG has been down this season in general).

Personally, I would take Wall for Jokic. Mainly, Plumblee coming in and getting extra touches and also, Galo been out has created extra shots for everyone (espec Jokic). His usage won't get any higher.. just saying.

Will you guys trade jokic for wall?

Jokic (up) or Draymond green (down)

Every Knicks fan will tell you Oakley was the other two

Jokic (Up) or Michae Jordan (Down)

Nikola Jokic is just the third player to shoot 70+ FG% in a game with 40+ points at Madison Square Garden since ’83.

Who would you rather!? Jokic or KAwhi going forward in keeper league. I already have hayward/Middleton at the sG

Am I late to this week's circlejerk??? I don't even have him in any league but I love him. :O

40 pointer coming up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAXdxT1DX5w

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The real unicorn has stepped out of the shadows!

Video Game Jokic

Jokic had a nice block on Dwight that even had the Atlanta commentators praising it. Why no block recorded today? This seems to happen a lot with blocks.

Jokic(up) towns(down) ROS value 10 man 9 cat league

d_ironside -- I haven't seen anything to suggest he'll be on a minutes restriction Saturday, but even if he is, Malone said Jokic was only going to play 25-28 minutes on Friday, and he played 32 mins. Malone does that all the time, saying someone will be on a minutes restriction, and then they play a lot more minutes. Jokic played 38 mins in DEN's last game against SAS two weeks ago, so you'd think he's used a lot again Saturday. Jokic was asked what he thought his minutes limit should have been last night and he said, "49."

Will he be getting limited minutes tonight cause it's a back to back, or should I expect him to go 30?

Confused why Jokic isn't the logo

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Feel like this kid needs increased stats in projections :)

After I watched him get his first trip dub, I was stunned to come here and see only three recent comments. Where are all you beautiful Joker spammers to celebrate this joyous occasion?!!

So good to watch

Love for Jok, only love.

Novocaine for the soul

PER's ....December 31.4....January 33.9...Wish I could include the end of Novemeber too. Basically if you took from the end of November until today 23 to 25 games he would have the best PER by a lot I suspect in NBA history since he has played 5 more minutes a game this month. For perspective Wilt is the best all time season at 31.8 and Lebron and MJ 31.7

https://www.facebook.com/jokinwithjokic/

@brendans that's the only thing that's even making me think about this--top heavy. and yes, a deal down the road is warranted. I'm not quite as high on Jok in terms of him maintaining his current stats as team scouts will find a way to slow him down. Counting stats might not be adversely affected but maybe efficiency and TOs will affect his value. Thanks for the input!

@jw9nine that would definitely make you pretty big-heavy but Jokic is so much more valuable than Kemba that I think you have to take it. Might have to make another deal down the road but that's too good to pass up...

1st yr of 3yr, 4 player keeper. Standard 12T, 9Cat, H2H. Have AD, Embiid, Kemba and TBD on 4th (Kmid, Otto, Dipo). Got offered Jokic for Kemba. Up for Jok, Down for Kemba given the info provided above.

jhiller -- Maybe. The last time Jokic was out, Nurkic started and played 26 minutes. If he gets that much run, Nurkic could put up decent stats with Jokic out.

johnyuhimself -- The Nuggets are making it sound like he could return within a few games, while a google search suggests that a minor hip flexor strain could heal in 1-3 weeks. Based on what's been reported, it sounds like Jokic has a good chance to play at some point next week.

2 games then day to day

MRI reveals Left hip flexor strain. Listed as day to day. Anyone have an estimate how much time he will miss?

Out for at least the next two games. Is Nurkic a good stream til he's back?

Wrong community to ask that question bruh @ummmiono

Was just offered Whiteside (DOWN) for Jokic (UP)? Thanks guys.

This thread on Jokic is like WOAH

Wind tweet says "headed to the showers like normal", but his news story also says "In the locker room after the game Jokic was in good spirits and was walking with a noticeable limp." http://bsndenver.com/nikola-jokic-leaves-nuggets-win-with-injury/

Harrison Wind ?@NBAWind 11m11 minutes ago Jokic just headed to the showers like normal. We'll wait until tomorrow but Nuggets might have dodged a bullet.

Really need to be patient for the MRI results. Negative side of the ledger is that he is a big man and that the team is concerned enough to order the MRI. Positive side of the ledger is he is just 21, the injury didn't look awful when it happened, and post game reports have him walking normally. Will be surprised if he plays Saturday, but anything further out seems unclear.

I wouldn't, it's a d*ck move to even offer it up without full explanation of Jokic's injury.

Jokic for Millsap right now???

I have a feeling my Smart Tool numbers are going to look a lot worse tomorrow. Tonight's the night to quant out and dream about what could have been.

It's like the people that blame going for 73 for Curry slipping on a puddle of sweat.

How bad do hip strains get? Is out for the year still a possibility?

https://twitter.com/NBAWind/status/824842166467825665

https://twitter.com/NBAWind/status/824841513309835267

Why wait for the MRI when I can wildly speculate??

MRI tomorrow and then we will know

x rays negative...REJOICE! REJOICE! PRAISE THY JOKIC

wonder how long a hip strain can sideline you

Haha I was really just trolling you Draftstreetking. Also I never said he should playing 27 minutes a game. My argument was that he wasn't playing 27 minutes a game. You are twisting my words. We had a disagreement about whether he was playing 27 minutes a game or not. You said he was and I said he wasn't. I do think he should be playing are than 27 minutes a game

https://streamable.com/ixxdj Video of the injury

Please don't blame it on freaking playing what the top other players in 2016 actually play over a 10 day span. When he ha a week off prior is 21 and played 25 a game all year. Good God. Look at a wilt Chamberlin or any of the 60's or 70's players game logs with 70s med tech and converse all stars. Some times you just land wrong

HE WALKED OUT OF THE ROOM!!!

Arthur could be sneaky. He's efficient and malone likes him.

I think Nurkic has to be added

I blame Bucephalus for this as he was responsible for disrupting our circle jerk

Hopefully it's not as bad as it looked. But non contact lower body injuries are scary. Combine that with his increased minutes and the nuggets playing a ton of games recently....

27 minutes a game! lol at the peps that think that's adequate use. Take out the first month when Malone effed him and he has to have an all time PER season going as a 22 year old. Top 5 RPM too. This guy is putting up all time PER min stats since Nov 26. No reason he should ever look over his shoulder or get Malone'd

Sideline reporter said they "wheeled him into the x-ray room". I just put on "I see a darkness" which I will listen to on repeat next to a solitary Serbian candle.

missed the game can someone fill me in to what happened?

Nurk/Faried/Arthur, any clear pickup?

he barely got off the court

my life is over

BBM I know you guys are probably not trying to let hype creep into projections and rightly so, but his FGA are still off. Your per36 is 15 FGA but it's been 18 for the last month, granted there have been absences from Mudiay and Harris during this time but I don't believe they're directly correlated as the FGA were even higher than the average in those games. He is the focal point now so I think the 18 is here to stay, already customised but just my 2c.

1st rounder 9 cat 2017

Alright you guys, I love it too, but the Jokic circle-jerk is taking up a lot of space in the comment feed. Let's stay sharp, it takes more than 1 player to win a league and leave the circle-jerking to reddit or the forum section.

He's about due for a monster projection upgrade. This guy is the truth against the highest levels of competition.

How in the hell did that top 12 comment get any downvotes :S He's been #9 for the last two months in 27 mpg...

How in the hell was Jokic not starting earlier in the year. It's mind boggling how much of an idiot Malone is.

Early prediction: draft in top 12 next year??

If I ever have a son, I just hope I love him half as much as I love Jokic.

That boy good

He dominated Jordan and he's tearing Gobert in half.

@themorticia It wasn't the first time, either. He dominated Jordan in a game during the Olympics.

That's just one example and still only 2 fouls. He was in no danger of fouling out and sitting your best player huge stretches accomplishes what. If he fouls out he fouls out keeping him off the court is doing the same thing. There are plenty more examples regardless. You look at a Gianis, AD, or KAT etc game log and you don't see 19 minute games, you hardly see under 30 minute ones and they are getting early fouls and blowouts too. You see many 35 and 40+ minute games too and he's been that kind of talent. What's wrong with wanting to see him played like the 21 year old star he has been or giving him the leash to relax on D and not to foul like other superstars if they get an early one. Stars play with them all the time.

The clippers game he picked up 2 fouls three minutes into the game and then they were up by almost 40 in the second half with a game the next night. It would have been stupid to run him out there in garbage time just to give him more minutes

He's been dicked around and misused most of this year and he's STILL a top 10 per minute guy. It's not just fantasy it's all metrics. You look at these other superstars and they aren't playing 25 minutes a game or playing 21 minutes even in blowouts. They just aren't and most of them aren't 21 years old on as crappy of teams that need super talent producing out there either.

He has been playing 30+ minutes, has highest usage on the team, and they are running the offense through him (which is 2nd best in NBA since he's been starting). Last night was a blowout and tonight (4th game in 5 nights) Arthur had a crazy incredible defensive stretch against KAT so Malone rightly stuck with him. If you're watching their games I legit don't know what you're complaining about re Jokic. Now if you want to talk riding Jameer....

They wouldn't have him out there if he wasn't healthy enough to play and he's 21 years old. The guy really has been one of the best players in the NBA the last month plus. Just wish they would treat him like that. When's the last time a team trying to make a playoff push played a super star less than 30 mins multiple times when he has that kind of form.

It was his fifth game in 7 days and he's been playing through a sore ankle and whatever that weird thigh thing that's happened. The young man gave you 131/56/17/6/6 on 62/79% and 6 threes. Everything is fine.

More like 27 or 28 minutes. Just like tonight in a highly competitive game he plays 27 minutes. He wasn't in foul trouble either. He had 3 fouls at the 4 minute mark and had only played 23 minutes when I wrote that. He should be playing 35 minutes a game.

Apparently Gary Harris only has his best games immediately after coming back from injury. /s Loving the way he looks on the court tonight.

How should they use him differently. He has the highest usage on the team and he basically plays the entire game on most nights unless it's a blowout or he has foul troubles.

He has the 58th best Defensive RPM in the NBA despite being put in a terrible position the first month, and he was 10th last year. Very underrated Defender. Oh yeah and Mike Malone is an ass clown. Seriously he's still isn't playing the guy like he should.

Best defender in the league... Cute

Even if you take a conservative approach to projecting his likely numbers for the rest of the season, and factor in some regression as teams focus on shutting him down as a priority, he still feels like a 20/10 guy minimum. Today the commentary was that the clippers had him at the top of their scouting report, he was matched up against the best defender in the league, and he still torched them for 19/10 in 21 mins in a blowout.

Time for a projection adjustment. He's been shooting consistently right around 63% for two months, his minutes continue to climb as his foul rate decreases and his usage rate is spiking.

I honestly think having Harris on the court opens up the passing opportunities for Jokic. They seem to have great chemistry together, whereas Barton seems hesitant to make the back-door cut, preferring to hang around the top of the arc.

@kokiAlexandre You sure did - but I wonder if you would have said anything if he was still stuck playing ~20 minutes a game at 14ppg / 7 rebounds?

Obviously thrilled with the production...but I wonder if the assists might come down a little as teams plan for his passing. Watched the game tonight and defenders were playing off him a bit, had a few of his usual passes to a cutter broken up.

Nikola literally killing Jordan out there lmao This goofy ass boy is making a name for himself everytime he plays.

@charlie_brown102 I told you so back then that "I am afraid that is a move you'll soon come to regret"... Sorry!

i lost out by 1 waiver claim in my league when he was dropped, and the bloke lets me know about it every day

Got him for Maurice Harkless Nov. 17. Its worked out so far.

Hey guys, can I get some up votes too for no reason? Thanks!

What a lovefest lol...so which of you guys is going to ask Jokic to the prom? He can only pick one of you :(

Jokic (up) or Jesus (down)?

"I got him for clarkson in a standard 8 cat....did i give too much?" -scutsa2 "I gave up Winslow for him" Nate_Swan..............Um...remember these days? I would like to say, that I am on record down there in the swamp-of-despair that is the early season comments, keeping the flame alive, never giving up hope and knowing this day would come. If I had a son, I would say that this feeling is better than watching him be born. Unless that son were Nikola Jokic.

What's crazy is I feel like he's really out of shape. He's slow but there's still a lot of upside wrt quickness, defensive rebounding, etc. Hope he stays in stateside this summer for a full summer of strength and conditioning.

This guy is just insane...

Charlie... that hurts brother

definition of regret: Trading Jokic for BLopez 2 weeks ago.

Damn the hype ! Not saying he does not deserve it, fantasy wise, but god all comments on Jokic's BBM page are always 10+ votes :D

Jokic(UP) or George(DOWN)

In a 16 teamer, I got oferred their Durant for my Jokic and Cody Zeller. UP to accept trade, NO to reject.

The biggest improvement over the last couple of weeks has been cutting out the silly frustration fouls. He seems to be capable of sustaining his per36 numbers as his minutes per game increase which is confirming him as a true fantasy stud.

DEN 6-1 in games where Jokic has played more than 30 mins

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Time for another bump in projections?

2 missed FT :O even Gods can bleed!

Top 10 pick next year. Incredible.

Because Malone dicked him around for a month and basically continues to by playing him 25 minutes a game.

Proof that coaches these days are stubborn egotistical morons. Remind me why he asked to be benched earlier in the year?

Agreed with Josh. Currently DEN is only 2.5 games out of the playoffs and the 7th/8th seeds are wide open. Good chance they try to make a push and Jokic would need to be a part of that.

The report was saying that he now been able to shed the brace, so I see that as a positive. He'll play through pain, but everyone plays through pain. I don' think there's a concern

Thoughts on this report about his wrist? Something to be worried about or just a peek behind the curtain of how most players are playing through something at this point. Semi-nervous they'd shut him down late.

12 Teams 10 CAT (DD last cat) Jokic (UP) Gortat+ Thad Young (DOWN)

At this point, would you take Jokic over Myles Turner in a keeper league? Turner's elite BLK + efficiency is hard to turn down.

Jokic/Hayward/Markieff Morris(Up), P. George/Love/Gay(Down)

Up for Jokic Down for Irving

Homey is looking nice.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge7P6_IPz74

I think he's in the conversation with players like Townes now as the future. Its not just fantasy, the NBA analytics like RPM and PER say he's a top 15 player even with the crap first 15 games. Its just a matter if the coach will actually play him like a star.

Jok The Beast. 2 yrs need it for Malone to see what even blind can.

Another Jokic fact: Since Nov 27th only two players are ranked in the Top 50 while playing less than 30 minutes per game. Embiid is number 42 in 27.0 mins/game, Jokic is number 15 in 26.3 mins/game.

Since Nov 27th he has been the #15th player in fantasy. #3 best per minute value. That's about the time he recovered from the Malone PF crap. I think he's pretty clearly a first round value as of today and he probably has #1 overall potential before all is said and done the next few years. Just a matter of if teams will ever play him 35 minutes a game.

Follow-up question, Jokic (Up) Ibaka (Down). Thanks BBM.

Is his projected 59.8% FG for the remainder of the season sustainable?

Usage is very much a matter of coaching trust, and I think projections can respond very quickly to changes in usage. His FGA, FTA, AST, and TO should all probably be quite a bit higher than they are right now. IMO Jokic is an easy top-20 player today, and he's not at all far off finishing top-10 ROS.

@kokiAlexandre I very may well.. however by saying that you basically disagree (quite significantly) with BBM and their projections - which is fine.. I just would firstly point that out. Secondly, blocks are in short supply this year and I've got none of them.. plus you forgot that B Lopez gives you close to 2 3's a game.

@charlie_brown102 I am sure you will regret that move. Other than scoring and blocking shots at a higher rate, what will Brook give you that Jokic wouldn't?

Unsure if you have noticed BBM but his projected shots per 36 have been about 2 lower than what they've actually been since Malone came to his senses, so almost a month now. No one notable on offence has been out over this period so I've customised them as that's generally what I've come to expect them to be going forward. Am I missing something?

Pretty simple logic re: Lopez to be honest. He's had foot issues which are significantly impacted by high weight loads over sustained periods of time. If BKN have nothing to play for, why WOULDN'T you shut him down near the end to save him for future years where you have something to play for? Absolute no brainer.

I was thinking of the opposite move as ppl seem to all think Brook will be shut down later this year. I never understood the logic that teams would shut down their stars if they're not in the playoff picture but what you guys think?

I traded my Joker for Brook Lopez yesterday. The BBM community voted to keep Joker (4-0).. but the projections were so heavily in favor of Lopez I pulled the trigger anyway.

This guy is over a 23.0 PER now and up to 16th highest RPM in the NBA now. That's even with a horrible start. I remember checking he had like an 11 PER through the first 10 or 12 games I. I would love to know what his PER was the last 20 games. Probably pushing high 20's or 30.

In Jokic we trust

"It's amazing, so amazing...ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...BOUNCE!", gotta love this kid, gotta love what he has been doing lately (thank you Malone)!!!

This guy is amazing. No idea how Nurkic played ahead of him

I know we're all in a cycle of reward-based abuse here. But I think we'll all be happier if we just sit back and enjoy the ride. He's a bright young man. I think everything is going to be just fine. Just fine, indeed.

That's all to say that 27-28 minutes projected is v agreeable, assuming that Jokic can return his fouls p/36 to last year, and if he manages to get it down to 3.8 or so, then we might see him average 29-30, imo

Players who average at or over 4 fouls per 36 don't seem to average anything more than 30 minutes or so. I've only found Myles Turner to be a similar comparison: he averages 3.9 p/36—which is less than Jokic's 4.8 this year—and Myles has been around 29-30 minutes. Last season, they basically averaged the same fouls p/36 year (4.2-4.3), but keep in mind Myles Turner has much more athleticism to work with.

He will overcome his personal fouls issue. He is a gem of a player.

Fouled out..

12 team 9 cat H2H dynasty with $220 budget: up for PG13 ($20); down for Jokic ($10) and Gary Harris ($5).

dyraks -- I really don't think I'd do it. I'd keep PG and Jokic.

12 team, 16 players per team, 10 starters, h2h, 9 cat and we MUST start 2 centers

Kid can play how ever you cut it and slice it, saying that for 2 yrs now, Jok is top tier talent, watched him growing up here, he is point guard in body of center. Only thing what can screw up everything is great head coach MM, nothing else.

dyraks -- Your hesitation is warranted. I would be reluctant to make that trade, and I often think it's best to get the best player in the trade. How big is your league, teams and roster spots?

Ok why am I thinking about rejecting this offer? as offered Durant for jokic/paul george ...Am I missing something but i feel like a proud papa and i dont wanna deal jokic.... up durant down jokic/george

Well to be fair up until last night he wasn't exactl living up to his ADP...hopefully he keeps this going

I am so WETTTTT right now....so many ppl blasted me for taking him at 29th pick in a 12 men 11 cats (ato, 2d, 3d) format. Now im laughing at their behinds...hahahahaha!!!! Keep up da good work Joker! Not even Batman can defeat u now!!!

Should I trade dragic(up) for jokic (down)

Should we be expecting an adjustment in his projections anytime soon? Or is it too early? Very good signs. Go get 'em, Jokic.

38 min...and 1 foul "because mike miller said he would beat me" http://tinyurl.com/ju4s4pp

I feel kind of dirty for trading a waiver wire pick up for Jokic, but it feels so good

I'm starting a support and recovery group for those of us who drafted young Niko. We will be meeting every game day in the basement of the Denver First Trinity church. Today was an important step in our healing process.

Just because it hasn't been brought up. 38 minutes!

I was being conservative! I hope you are right on the TOP 20 upside...

Rfan top 20 upside. Top 50 floor ROS.

who was guarding him tonight? mark cuban? lol

What a gem! Jokic will never leave my roster, never ever!!!!!!!! I mean, 9 assists behind 15 revs and he is a big man? Hahahaha LOVING IT TO THE FULLEST!

Oh shietttttt das it mane. Keep it up!

I managed to trade Nurkic for Jokic early on. Nurkic now on the waiver wire, Jokic now with top 50 upside!

I have Jokic, Schroder, Harris and Rubio in my team. I couldn't be happier with how today played out!

I'm so erect right now

The icing on the cake is that he only had 1 foul in 38 minutes.

It's happening!

Christmas came early.

update on projections are in order?

His value is safe the rest of the way guys. We made it and sky is the limit

owning jokic has been like being blue balled and i'm finally ready to unload ya feel me

FGA are a few short BBM, unsure if just a delay in update or if there is some rationale behind it?

Jokic (UP) or Drummond (DOWN) in 9-cat H2H dynasty?

Let's get that triple double Jokic!!

BRUH

19 minutes and a double double with 5 assists...by halftime.

Jokic's sweet sweet no-look dish.... https://vine.co/v/5Q09p2OZxq9

he got so excited to actually be starting he lost control and fouled everybody!

His foul trouble tonight... TeamJokerForever!That pass to Faried, wow!!!!!

Gasol-esque

his passing vision is a pleasure to watch

His passing>>>>>>>>>>

And the small ball lineup. Never been so excited for a nuggets game

Starting a center tonight! Boom!

Omg did Malone really say that? Homey is #2 in per36 the past 2 weeks. Oh lawddddd

I just want a can't offer trades for this guy list. How many times can I reject my Jokic for their Devin Booker. I think I have gotten that offer 5 times

@gehrenberg LMAO. I even think Yahoo! should add him to the 'Can't Cut' list of players (he is that valuable).

Fending off garbage offers for him everywhere I own him has become a part of my morning ritual every day for the least week or so

@gehrenberg "and then, there was light!!!"... What took you (Malone) so long to figure that one out?

It's happening https://mobile.twitter.com/NBAWind/status/809129393721319425

Giannis and Nick Young or McCollum, Jokic, Crowder. 8 Cat, Dynasty. Up for Giannis, Down for Jokic/CJ

I year ya! I kept him over Vooch in my 10 team six keeper H2H league. So glad I did. I'm riding him out his entire career. He's that good.

It sure was rough riding out the early part of the season with him. Made me doubt my draft, but things are turning round now and I'm feeling much better about my team now.

God he's awesome!

Coach Mike Malone said he has to find more minutes for Nikola Jokic and hinted at a lineup change. https://twitter.com/NBAWind/status/809129393721319425 Finally the beast will be unleashed?

@Salimbo Myles role is more defined/secure for this season, so I would lean toward him. It also depends on your team build, as they both have different strengths. Myles has a much higher block rate, while the Joker is pretty consistent with out of position assists.

Up for Nikola Jokic, down for Myles Turner. Thnx!

is a waste of time to figure out someone who has abs.no clue coaching the team, he shown that 1000 times in last 2 yrs. It was same thing last year and its no different in this one.

#27155 -- I wouldn't do that, mostly because Jokic can be kept for only $7.

I'm hoping Jokic at 11.6 ppg is a conservatively low estimate. Seems like more of a 13 14 ppg guy opportunity wise. Let's see.

Trade a $7 Jokic in a 12 team 9cat h2h keeper league for Paul millsap?

As for Malone... Really, I don't understand what goes through his mind with regard to Nikola's minutes.

I grabbed Jokic from the waiver wire (14 team league). Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw him hanging in there...

At least if he's playing 27 minutes a game I would prefer it against the scrubs as opposed to the starters. For fantasy purposes anyway

His per 36 the last 5 games is #1 in the NBA. Yeah dude you are playing him to much. Good lord unleash the man while he's rolling. 26/15/5 per 36. He's the only one that ever brought it tonight and he seriously thinks he played to much. What a joke.

http://tinyurl.com/jraoop6...I mean he's obviously talking about giving him his usual long 2nd half stint when they were down so big but it speaks to his awareness that he would use "jokic" and "too many minutes" in the same sentence...

Malone, pls....

@brendans please tell me that's not true..

LOLLLLOLLLOL Malone just said in postgame that he played Jokic too many minutes...

He's Marc Gasol 2.0, though more advanced at a younger age.

Like, it's great - Jokic killing it out there by himself.. but the game is already lost.

Malone sucks for sure, but at least Jokic has his groove back. He looks like a top 25 player now.

It's cause he has to bring Jokic in for his 17 min straight or whatever stint to finish the game. Another (massive) downside to not starting him...

god dam. Best plus/minus in whole game, hasn't missed a shot (3 assists) in 9mins 40 seconds and yet Faried comes on instead. #noclue

@funk.I doubt the jokic owner would ever take that deal. It's pretty clear who is the better player now and in the future...

funk: I would do that in a second if you can, especially if it's a keeper. And Unless 15.5/10.5/3.3/.5/1 with 61/82% [last two weeks] is costly in your league than I can't see it being costly at all. He's trending way up and will end the year higher than randle and a lot of other dudes for years to come. As a long-suffering Jokic owner though there's no way I'm trading him now for Randle. That's me tho. Happy hunting. Joker4Lyfe

In 9 cat yahoo keeper league - randle is a solid keeper, thinking of offering him for jokic. What do y'all think? Feel like jokic's ceiling this year is higher but is too costly to keep.

well, in my league points not so important. Last 15 Kemba 25,3 avg meanwhile Jokic 34,8. H2H league, still think its worth?

Who in their right mind would trade you Kemba for Jokic? If you get Kemba, I'd be sprinting to any phone or computer to hit the accept button 13867317 times over.

worth trade to Kemba?

agreed. D is bad because of schemes and player combos, not because they have a bunch of bad defenders. Their PnR scheme is terrible.

They are quite bad on the defensive end no matter what you do to the lineups, which is why it bothers many people that Malone doesn't concede their deficiencies on that end and just go small to maximize their offense, i.e., put Gallo/Chandler/Jokic out there more.

Thanks for the link man. Being better then Nurkic isn't saying much...lol. His defense is quite bad. He makes some bonehead plays, seems to be quite immature, and gets lost a lot. I was just trying to provide some perspective from a real basketball standpoint. It seems some just see the fantasy stats and wonder why guys don't play more. I like Jokic and would like to see him play more...but we can't just keep putting ALL the blame on Malone. Denver has quite a few bad defenders which is reflected by being 23rd in efficiency and 26th in points given up.

He's defensive numbers aren't good this year, but I think at least some of that can be attributed to him playing power forward to start the year. He's clearly much more comfortable as a center

He had the best DRTG on the team last year. He looks slow but he's super smart and has great anticipation. Good breakdown comparing with Nurkic: http://tinyurl.com/zcu43pf

Malone does some weird stuff with his rotations, I do admit. But, Jokic has some real issues on defense. He's clearly very skilled offensively, but I don't think he gets many more minutes until he improves on the defensive end.

Malone is brainless, its obvious for 2 yrs now.

I wish he will.. But dont think so, fuck Malone.

Vote UP if you think Jokic will be playing 30 mins a game by the New Year? Down if you think, less.

Comments section was going so well this year too. Welp, negative regression.

Why did you post "oh got ya"...and then have to post ANOTHER comment? Come on dude...you are making is very frustrating to sift through the comments section.

Productive chat by adults. Look up the definition of both "productive" and "adult" and take those meanings into account before posting absolute crap that NOBODY appreciates here.

Deadmau5whomp stop spamming the comments, its getting ridiculous and annoying.

Malone should be playing this guy at least 25-30 minutes a game. Such a joke. Happy with his production, though.

He's dominating the game right now and the buzzer beater was ridiculousl

I'm starting to feel really good about what I see here

DEN current starting lineup has worst net rating by almost 10 points of any 5-man lineup in the league that's played at least 50 min http://tinyurl.com/zhnhlcr

Mike Malone is the biggest idiot coach in the world.

I really believe that today Malone was planning to give Arthur more minutes at the expense of Jokic's.

Thank you ref for ejecting Malone! Adam Silver, do your thing and have him suspended... :) Some impatient dude dropped him in one of my leagues and I managed to snatch him, what a bargain!

I think Faried has a role in the NBA. But it should be as an energy player off the bench for 20 or so mpg. Anthing beyond that is asking too much of him.

Good insight here regarding Nuggets roster and management philosophy http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/fantasy-basketball-today-podcast-mike-conley-injury-and-nuggets-talk/ http://bsndenver.com/three-areas-where-the-denver-nuggets-are-struggling-the-most/

Same here. Problem is, if they really want to trade pieces (and I question if management really does) those players need to play and be showcased.

Takes two teams to make a trade though. They've tried to trade Faried for like three years now but hard to find a taker for a 4 who cant shoot or defend and is a diva in the locker room.

But, it is pretty crystal clear who the best centre is, but that hasn't stopped the coach from not playing him enough

I just want them to play Murray, Barton, Chandler, Gallo, Jokic lineup so badly

A team with a lot of average and above average players. No alpha dog. Too much depth at almost all positions. As much as coach is to blame, more so with management. Many opportunities to consolidate the roster in the past...wait wait wait...and now team has this.

Did Malone get ejected for not playing Jokic? Even the ref couldn't take it anymore.

was in for much of DEN 29 pt comeback tonight after Malone got ejected. Nurk/Faried starting frontcourt is terrible...something's gotta give eventually.